• rottingleaf
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    I use FVWM with 2-pixel solid borders and no window titlebars or buttons or panels, except for one FvwmButtons instance with digital clock, all keyboard-controlled. EDIT: … so I obviously don’t prefer Windows

    The issues with Gnome are that it’s resource-heavy and inconsistent in UX, and setting it up is PITA.

    Cinnamon as its fork is much better.

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      I use FVWM with 2-pixel solid borders and no window titlebars or buttons or panels, except for one FvwmButtons instance with digital clock, all keyboard-controlled. EDIT: … so I obviously don’t prefer Windows

      k

      The issues with Gnome are that it’s resource-heavy

      No it isn’t. Stop making shit up.

      inconsistent in UX

      Gnome is easily the most consistent DE out there. By far. Honestly, by far and away the most consistent. Even MacOS is less consistent, and that’s saying something.

      and setting it up is PITA.

      ? Install it and it’s done. I change a couple of keyboard shortcuts too but that’s unnecessary.

      Cinnamon as its fork is much better.

      So a Windows UX clone. Not everything has to be yet another Windows clone. What happened to you not preferring Windows UX lol

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        No it isn’t. Stop making shit up.

        I’ve even seen benchmarks. In my own experience it’s slow where default KDE5 is fast. I didn’t dig why, because I’m not going to use a full-fledged DE over my cozy FVWM setup anyway.

        Also accusing better people than you of lying is impolite.

        Gnome is easily the most consistent DE out there. By far. Honestly, by far and away the most consistent. Even MacOS is less consistent, and that’s saying something.

        I already guessed that’s your opinion, but OK. “Even”? It’s the same horror as MacOS.

        So a Windows UX clone. Not everything has to be yet another Windows clone. What happened to you not preferring Windows UX lol

        It can look like Gnome 3 UX clone too, and that’s how it looked when I used it. Just more consistent and usable.

        Anyway, there’s such a thing as ergonomics. It’s not really subjective, it can be measured in clicks and keystrokes, with accounting for mistakes and searching for elements of UI. Gnome devs are clearly ignorant of it.

        MacOS and Gnome are sometimes worse than even modern Windows in that regard.

        BTW, about Windows - w2k and xp were very good in terms of ergonomics.

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          You’re lying. That’s why I called you a liar.

          Gnome is the most consistent. That’s an objective, factual statement.

          No, you talked about a Windows UX clone. We get it, you want everything to be a Windows clone.

          Just more consistent

          Lmao

          Anyway, there’s such a thing as ergonomics.

          Something gnome does very well and Windows and its clones don’t.

          Honestly, I don’t know why only Gnome devs seems to care about consistency and ergonomics. It’s maddening.

          BTW, about Windows - w2k and xp were very good in terms of ergonomics.

          HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

          HAHAHAHAHAA

          HAHAHAHA

          HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

          AHAHAHAHAHA

          HAHAHAHAH

          Lol

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            So you don’t have any arguments and apparently think that repeating shit will make it true.

            Any amount of “HAHAHA” is not an argument, and like I said, ergonomics is not a subjective thing.

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              I’ve comprehensively dismantled everything you’ve said.

              We get it, Gnome makes you cry like a little baby and you want a lousy Windows clone, anything else makes your little Microsoft-gimped brain hurt.

              Stick to your Windows with its shit ergonomics lmao. I’ll stick to the best desktop for ergonomics hands-down.

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                  3 months ago

                  Lmao, Plasma and Cinnamon are literally Windows clones. Gnome is nothing like it.

                  Do you see a taskbar at the bottom? A start button? Menu bar? System tray in the bottom right? Clock in the bottom right? Minimise, Maximise, Close at the top right of each Window? Nah. That’s Windows and its clones like Plasma and Cinnamon.

                  Also fuck off

                  Aww I huwt the wittle baby’s feewings :‘’(

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                    Gnome is nothing like it.

                    Which at best would be its only achievement.

                    Do you see a taskbar at the bottom? A start button? Menu bar? System tray in the bottom right? Clock in the bottom right? Minimise, Maximise, Close at the top right of each Window?

                    Apparently RISC OS, AmigaOS and NextStep were Windows clones.

                    See, that’s why Gnome is appropriately treated as crap. Because its developers and users alike are similar to you in general.