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Warren was asked about a ruling from the International Court of Justice that found it was āplausibleā Israel has committed acts of genocide in Gaza, and about her own opinion on the matter. A spokesperson for Warren said in a statement to POLITICO Monday that the senator ācommented on the ongoing legal process at the International Court of Justice, not sharing her views on whether genocide is occurring in Gaza.ā
Warren has faced pressure from her left flank since the start of the crisis in Gaza. The progressive senator initially voiced full-throated support for Israel in the wake of Hamasā Oct. 7 attack. But as international criticism built over Israelās military response, far-left groups began protesting outside of her offices and Cambridge home, calling on her to advocate for a lasting cease-fire in Gaza and to stop further U.S. military aid to Israel.
Unfortunately warren also played spoiler to sanders, helping Biden winā¦
That logic really doesnāt fly. I think sandersā own fan base turned off so many people, women especially, that Warrenās run made plenty of sense. And she was styling her rhetoric as a watered down version of sandersā, ultimately making her more āelectableā than sanders to more establishment-type democrats with some progressive leaning, again making her less of a liability in the general.
They had similar ideas with different approaches. Warren also wouldāve had a better shot if Bernie hadnāt been running. And by your own logic, that makes sanders a spoiler for her. Why would Bernie immediately be the standard bearer of more progressive ideas turning her into the spoiler? Just because he ran the election before?
One side of a coin does not make the other a āspoilerā side of the coin. It just doesnāt work like that.
They spoiled each other, sure. The only reason I state her as the spoiler is because by that primary, sanders had the name recognition from his previous run. He already had a movement behind him. Warren has to build hers from scratch.
Is disagree. I mean, either of them wouldāve had an advantage over trump. But who knows how it wouldāve gone, because weāve never really had a progressive candidate in our lifetimes. Obamaās first run was the closest thing to one, even if it was all bullshit. But that rhetoric got him a lot of excitement. He just went back on it all immediately.
But a lot has changed since 2008. Progressive ideas are all incredibly popular. But once the spin machine really kicked into gear with either of them āthreatening capitalism,ā anything couldāve happened.
But Iād also disagree that Warren was building her movement from scratch. She had built a following ever since she grilled the fuck out of wall at CEOs in 2010. She wasnāt some random person no one had ever heard of. And Iād argue that everything Sandersā followers did in 2016/2017, how bad of a reputation there was, having that group behind him spoiled his chances more than anything. It wasnāt all of usāI was one of them. But the most vocal and shitty among them were so vicious and annoying that it turned people away from sanders. He literally has his own fans to blame for not having more support.
I liked both of them, they were the two best candidates of my lifetime, anyway. But the amount of assholes I had to deal withāall of them sanders supportersāonline put a sour taste in my mouth. I still voted for him, but I can very easily see how much that was this same exact movement shooting itself in the foot. Shit, plenty of Warren supporters (mostly women) were so adamantly against supporting sanders because of the sexism they had all experienced. That was a terrible look.
Iām just saying itās all much messier and uglier than either of us would like.