• Adanisi
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    50
    arrow-down
    13
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    I dislike TikTok but should you really be banning platforms you don’t like?

    Sanction them if they misbehave, yes. Prevent most of the population from communicating using it? Absolutely not.

    Americans have weird priorities when it comes to freedom. The mental gymnastics I’ve been seeing trying to justify a ban of a platform to a massive population of people is nuts.

    No, it isn’t “actually upholding” freedom of speech to ban TikTok.

    • Toribor@corndog.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      54
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      Congress believes it’s a national security threat which is probably true but they haven’t bothered explaining this to their constituents at all. Ideally they’d pass comprehensive privacy protection laws to setup standards that both domestic and foreign companies would be subject to. Then companies either adjust their behaviors and meet a certain level of transparency or they would be prosecuted under the law.

      But no… We get this instead: a confusing and obviously targeted ultimatum with Congress telling everyone ‘trust me bro this is the only way’.

      • just another dev@lemmy.my-box.dev
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        31
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        7 months ago

        deally they’d pass comprehensive privacy protection laws to setup standards that both domestic and foreign companies would be subject to.

        No, no, no. That would mean dismantling PRISM and the FISA. Gathering data on citizens is only bad when China does it.

        • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          I mean, to be fair, both are extremely bad and should be stopped, but a hostile foreign country gathering data and pushing propaganda on your citizens IS worse than you or non-hostile foreign countries doing it.

          • AWildMimicAppears@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            9
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            7 months ago

            I would argue that gathering data about your own citizens is actively worse than china doing it; an average US citizen has a lot more to lose if the 3-letter-agencies or the police use it against them, because those are who you would have to deal with in person.

            • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              7 months ago

              Valid point. I think the issue is that we know there is no good reason for China to have that data, and we know that they are hostile, so it’s an easy decision.

    • bighatchester@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      7 months ago

      I don’t think most Americans want tiktok banned . Unfortunately the US government just does what ever they want and right now there is too much pro Palestine information on tiktok .

    • rusticus@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      12
      ·
      7 months ago

      lol you think “freedom of speech” includes foreign adversary right to harvest American citizen data?

      • NeatPinecone@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        20
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        7 months ago

        Exactly. I only want my data to be harvested by the NSA. It feels more patriotic.