The labels have the character’s name followed by 受 (uke), which means being the receptive or passive partner, or in BL slang means the bottom. Most underrated organizational system ever by the way. Please show this to anyone who claims that “unwoke” Japan doesn’t “shoehorn queerness into everything”.

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        I mean I get what you mean, my anatomy certainly doesn’t stop me from feeling like a woman. Obviously gender is far far more than anatomy, but I’m not going to pretend like they are completely unrelated. If that’s your experience, that’s great and I’m happy for you, but it’s unfortunately not mine.

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          Why aren’t they completely unrelated? Because doctors assign everyone’s gender at birth exclusively based on their genitalia? Doesn’t sound that inherent to me.

          Especially given how surgeons frequently disfigure intersex infants to fit this binary.

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            I’m not really sure what you’re saying here. Society reduces gender to anatomy, therefore the two are completely unrelated, actually? Are you saying it’s wrong for trans people to want bottom surgery?

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                I wasn’t talking about intersex surgeries, sorry that was unclear.

                Look, it’s obvious you and I just don’t mean the same thing by “X is/isn’t inherently gendered”. If genitalia are not gendered, then nothing is, and also any queer labels are all meaningless including straightness and cisness. Which I happen to believe, generally speaking.

                But as long as we’re having a conversation about something “being gay” or whatever, then it’s silly to pretend like society doesn’t actually view genitals as associated with gender.

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                  Okay, I was. It’s a good reference point for the concept of anatomy being gendered.

                  Yes; labels are also constructed things exclusively used simply by people to describe themselves. No one trait of a human is inherently gendered; nothing is. “Cis” and “straight” still have meaning, in fact all queer labels do. Descriptive meanings.

                  Right but that’s entirely on the person (in this case, the weird sad cis het man) doing the objectifying & presumable agonising about his sexuality. It’s not like it’s impossible that this man could simply be gay and coping weird, but inherently there is nothing gay about his attraction. The anatomy is only gendered in his goofyass mind.

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                    It’s a good reference point for the concept of anatomy being gendered.

                    But that’s exactly my point; society does gender anatomy. Society genders a bunch of other things, too. I’m not being prescriptive about it. I’m not saying I think that’s a good thing and we should do it more.

                    As for whether it’s gay to like dicks, I believe it is at least a little gay, but also I don’t care. Like I said, I think once we start trying to draw form boundaries around queer labels then inevitably people will start to get confused because nobody views it exactly the same way. For example, is a ftm4mtf relationship straight? Yeah, I guess. But it’s also queer. It follows, then, that queerness and straightness are not mutually exclusive, so something can be straight but also a little gay. Or very gay. It’s whatever.