The AI community needs to take copyright lawsuits seriously.

Why The New York Times might win its copyright lawsuit against OpenAI::The AI community needs to take copyright lawsuits seriously.

  • AdanisiEnglish
    128·
    9 months ago

    It looks like someone hasn’t seen the video of Copilot spitting out the Quake inverse sqrt algorithm verbatim.

    • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
      44·
      9 months ago

      While it got popularised as “Carmack’s reverse” the algorithm is actually significantly older.

      Also you’d have to show that it was literally copy+pasted, including comments and all, to even have a chance at a copyright claim: Algorithms are not subject to copyright, similar to how story structures aren’t. This is like saying “I asked an author to write a book and they plagiarised the hero’s arc!”. And even if it was copied straight-out you’d have an uphill battle to fight, to wit, wikipedia is quoting the thing verbatim.

      That said copilot seems to be severely over-fitted in places, and I don’t like the thing one single bit, and the only thing it’s generally good at is writing code faster that shouldn’t have been written in the first place, but inverse sqrt isn’t a good example.

      • AdanisiEnglish
        41·
        9 months ago

        It didn’t just get the gist if the algorithm though, it literally had the same magic number (which isn’t even the most optimal iirc), the same COMMENTS (//what the fuck?), same variable names, etc.

        It didn’t produce the algorithm logically, it copied it.

        Wikipedia is also adhering to the GPL license of the code. Copilot is not, especially if it’s working on proprietary code or adding an MIT license header to copied GPL code (lol)

        • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
          21·
          9 months ago

          It didn’t produce the algorithm logically, it copied it.

          The magic number is part of the logic of the thing.

          But yes as said copilot is overfitted. Inverse sqrt still isn’t a good example, it’s nearly as bad as Oracle trying to claim to have found copyright infringement in Android’s standard Java library by saying that Math.average or whatnot is identical. There are way better examples of why copilot is fucked up.

          • AdanisiEnglish
            21·
            9 months ago

            The magic number is part of the logic, yes, but that’s not even the best magic number for the job iirc, and nobody remembers how they got it.

            I just used this as an example because it’s incredibly clear that it was copied verbatim (again, comments like “what the fuck?” showing up, you can’t tell me it came up with that itself)

        • tb_@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          9 months ago

          I had bing chat spit back at me the question I posted on stack overflow the day before. You know, the example code I provided which didn’t exactly work as I wanted.

      • tb_@lemmy.worldEnglish
        91·
        9 months ago

        “They aren’t getting away with plagiarism”

        - “There has been some plagiarism”

        “Some plagiarism doesn’t count!”

        • littleblue✨@lemmy.worldEnglish
          210·
          9 months ago

          Your lack of understanding the facts of the situation, much less the definition of plagiarism isn’t a strong argument.

          • AdanisiEnglish
            31·
            9 months ago

            Go on then. If copying a whole function of code verbatim INCLUDING comments like // what the fuck? is not plagiarism in the context of software, what is?

          • tb_@lemmy.worldEnglish
            31·
            9 months ago

            isn’t a strong argument.

            Because “no it’s totally not like that” is?