Chris Packham is a national treasure.

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      11 months ago

      How does supporting Just Stop Oil not help his cause? They seem like they would be right up his street.

      The only problem with Just Stop Oil is that they are like PETA, in that they are too extreme for people to join in with, but fundamentally they aren’t wrong and help shift the Overton Window.

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        11 months ago

        Their actions drive more people away from their cause, rather than encouraging more support. Surely that’s the opposite of what you want if your aim is to achieve change.

        Annoying ordinary people is not going to get you very far.

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          11 months ago

          Completely disagree.

          I have not met anyone who disagrees with their aim, just the methods.

          If history is anything to go by, you need to have these more extreme groups to move the Overton Window allowing other, gentler, groups to be engaged.

          Suffragists & Suffragettes. MLK & the Black Panthers.

          Northern Ireland required the IRA. Not that the IRA was engaged but their presence meant that other groups would be engaged.

          Most people disagree with PETAs methods, but their presence means that animal welfare groups are engaged.

          Someone has to be the “bad cop”.