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    And to clarify here. Biden is declining because we all do at that age. No one is immune to that. Trump is declining because he has abused who knows how many different drugs and fuck knows what else over the decades, add that history to age and it’s never going to be good. Biden has always had a stutter and while I know you didn’t mention it, it’s been used a bully stick by the maggats seemingly unaware of the fact that their guy has been deranged and unable to stay on topic for years.

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        4 months ago

        And your point is?

        My point is that it’s expected to have some mental decline by that age but I would still bet on Biden if they went toe to toe on jeopardy or at a bars trivia night. And while Biden wouldn’t have been my first choice for president to begin with, he is still light years better than trump ever was even at this point and I’ll take Biden over most of the current choices on the left especially because those others have zero chance of winning.

        With and without the help of things like heavy drinking, drug use, lifestyle, etc, everyone ages differently. I know this from my own family and watching the world around me. Trump has been incoherent for a couple of decades now while Biden has been able to control it (for the most part).

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          My point is they’re both fucking 80. It’s really silly to ascribe one decline to age and another to drugs. Anyways Trumps still better at the snappy comeback, Biden never had that anyways, so the presidential debate is gonna be sad as fuck.

          Trump has been incoherent for a couple of decades now

          That’s just a straight up lie. maybe 5 years and I’m not yet convinced it’s not because it seems to work.

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            You need to work on your reading comprehension. And if you think that A) Debates and political discourse is all about the “snappy comeback” and B) Are impressed by the “insults” that trump got from school children, there is nothing more to say here.

            You have a nice day now.

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      I agree with all of that. His issues go beyond his stutter, though. His mouth has always been a step or two ahead of his brain, and he got himself into trouble in the past saying stupid shit. He has run for President for years and years, and couldn’t win until Trump made it OK to say stupid stuff.

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        Are you talking about Biden here? I don’t remember him really running in any elections after serving with Obama. Trump is the one who had to run multiple times and only had a chance when he switched from dem to republican and got backing from putin and others, plus the msm thinking he had no chance so they used him for ratings and helped him win, yes, even the left wing media. If they had just stopped giving him attention we wouldn’t be in this mess.

        And what stupid stuff has Biden said? Aside from gaffs that everyone has especially when you talk as much as they do and when you are being pulled in several directions, etc.

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          It’s tough to find a link to all the stuff that isn’t over the top in its vitriol, but this is a good summary from rhe Guardian of some of the weird shit he’s said, which doesn’t even include the “pony soldier” thing:

          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/25/joe-biden-2020-public-gaffes-mistakes-history

          Other politicians don’t seem to step in it quite as often as he does. They don’t seem quite so bad now, but that’s only because Trump lowered the bar so much. Howard Dean’s campaign was derailed because of a weird scream, after all. He would fit right in now (particularly since he is “only” 75…)

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        Biden was a front runner in 88 due to his public speaking being so exceptional. Didn’t have a hint of a stutter either.

        It wasn’t till reporters starting questioning him about plagiarism till he had to drop out. And it wasn’t because of the plagiarism.

        It’s because when someone challenges Biden, he’s always lost his temper and started insulting them

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j0FS0Z6ho

        All that IQ stuff at the start is like what trump does. And all those statistics he rattled off turned out to be lies. When they were fact checked he dropped.

        But the point is, Bidens current issues with speeching isn’t his stutter, he got over that while he was still a child. What’s happening now is what will happen to all of us if we’re lucky enough to live that long. His age is effecting him like it would anyone else.

        So maybe we should run someone 20 years younger who’s only 61? Younger would be better, but 81 is just ridiculous

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        The times he tried running for president he backed out for the blatant lies he told while running. No speech impediment forces someone to lie.