This is great but why do they spell sentence “centence”? Such a wonderfully thought out and deeply meaningful video about the English language should have proper grammar and spelling, right? What the fuck?
Swearing is undoubtedly poor language in the sense that it’s not socially all acceptable.
Also it being versatile doesn’t make it any good, rather other way around. That swear word being used rather than other descriptive terms is use of poor language and sign of poor vocabulary.
Also the study is about knowing many swear words rather than using them to fill in all gaps in sentences.
Nice of you to include a TL;DR at the top accurately describing your comment! Maybe mark it as such next time, though.
Swearing is undoubtedly poor language in the sense that it’s not socially all acceptable.
According to social norms originating from bronze age mythology and oppressive edicts derived therefrom. Do try to keep up with modern society.
Also it being versatile doesn’t make it any good, rather other way around.
That makes no sense. The definition of successful use of language is expressing what you intend to express in the ideal manner for your specific purposes. A lack of versatility would hamper any efforts to achieve that goal.
That swear word being used rather than other descriptive terms is use of poor language and sign of poor vocabulary.
Only when used improperly, like with any word.
If you substitute every other word with the word “maybe”, that’s a sign of poor vocabulary too. Using the word “maybe” at all bears none of the blame, though.
According to social norms originating from bronze age mythology and oppressive edicts derived therefrom. Do try to keep up with modern society.
Are you trying to claim that swearing is socially acceptable in modern society? You wouldn’t swear in your customer service profession and you wouldn’t swear to someone you respect.
That makes no sense. The definition of successful use of language is expressing what you intend to express in the ideal manner for your specific purposes. A lack of versatility would hamper any efforts to achieve that goal.
I would argue as someone who doesn’t natively speak english that words with double- or multimeanings (versatile) are hard to learn and interpret in language. They pave way to misunderstanding and by nature limit the richness of the language.
Only when used improperly, like with any word.
I would claim that using swear words are mostly if not always used inproperly.
But writing this response I’m increasingly willing to blame cultural differences. My mother language is very hard to learn and in it you would add a suffix to add versatility to a word. I’d say we come from different places and respect different things in language.
As per your suggestion:
TL;DR: Shit happens, rally helps. Good talk, have a good one.
Are you trying to claim that swearing is socially acceptable in modern society?
Absolutely.
You wouldn’t swear in your customer service profession
That depends whether I have a boss with the same antedeluvian views as you.
you wouldn’t swear to someone you respect.
Categorically false. On the contrary, I have absolutely zero respect for arbitrary censorship, especially when enforced by abusing a position of authority.
I would argue as someone who doesn’t natively speak english that words with double- or multimeanings (versatile) are hard to learn and interpret in language
As someone whose native language isn’t English either, that’s part of the fun of language: that it has nuance and context-based variations. You might as well argue that idioms should be banned 🙄
They pave way to misunderstanding
See also: humor, less rigid expression, creativity. Those are probably not concepts you have any first hand experience with, but go ahead and look them up.
and by nature limit the richness of the language.
Ambiguity and flexibility limit the richness of language?? I’d ask what you’re smoking, but you seem too uptight to ever try something fun.
I would claim that using swear words are mostly if not always used inproperly
They are if you have no understanding about how language works. Then again, so are all other words in your doubtlessly very limited vocabulary.
My mother language is very hard to learn and in it you would add a suffix to add versatility to a word
Same with mine, tbh. Danish is a very weird language. Some would say downright bizarre and I’m not sure if I disagree…
Shit happens, rally helps
…is your weird native language Finnish? Because rally racing is extremely popular in Finland 😛
Good talk, have a good one.
I’m inclined to disagree on the first half but yeah, have a nice day lol
I don’t respect your hostility in the discussion. This comment reinforces that you and me merely have fundamentally differing opinions about the matter and there will be no conclusion.
As for the rigidity of the discussion: I’m of the school of thought that strives for efficient communication and of the paradigm that things should argue, not people. I’m in this to learn stuff and learn about your opinion, not to clash with you.
But I’ve come to realize that internet forums generally are filled with people who get empowered with argumentation errors and thus attempt at civilized discussion tends to be fools errand.
You seem to have interesting opinions and so if you’d like to continue this discussion further, my Matrix handle is in the bio.
Finding the shirt crass because it references a lewd act is understandable, as is objecting to it because Timmy the ten year old who is at the theater is going to ask his parents some interesting questions after reading the shirt.
Objecting to it solely because it uses a dirty word is … pretty fucking stupid.
Using poor language on T-shirts is unimaginative and tacky. Sorry not sorry.
Thinking that the most versatile word in the English language is “poor language” is unimaginative and a symptom of a limited vocabulary.
Or put more concisely: get fucked.
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This is great but why do they spell sentence “centence”? Such a wonderfully thought out and deeply meaningful video about the English language should have proper grammar and spelling, right? What the fuck?
Who are “they” in this case? The ones who made a video 20 or so years ago?
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This is incorrect.
Swearing is undoubtedly poor language in the sense that it’s not socially all acceptable.
Also it being versatile doesn’t make it any good, rather other way around. That swear word being used rather than other descriptive terms is use of poor language and sign of poor vocabulary.
Also the study is about knowing many swear words rather than using them to fill in all gaps in sentences.
Nice of you to include a TL;DR at the top accurately describing your comment! Maybe mark it as such next time, though.
According to social norms originating from bronze age mythology and oppressive edicts derived therefrom. Do try to keep up with modern society.
That makes no sense. The definition of successful use of language is expressing what you intend to express in the ideal manner for your specific purposes. A lack of versatility would hamper any efforts to achieve that goal.
Only when used improperly, like with any word.
If you substitute every other word with the word “maybe”, that’s a sign of poor vocabulary too. Using the word “maybe” at all bears none of the blame, though.
Are you trying to claim that swearing is socially acceptable in modern society? You wouldn’t swear in your customer service profession and you wouldn’t swear to someone you respect.
I would argue as someone who doesn’t natively speak english that words with double- or multimeanings (versatile) are hard to learn and interpret in language. They pave way to misunderstanding and by nature limit the richness of the language.
I would claim that using swear words are mostly if not always used inproperly.
But writing this response I’m increasingly willing to blame cultural differences. My mother language is very hard to learn and in it you would add a suffix to add versatility to a word. I’d say we come from different places and respect different things in language.
As per your suggestion:
TL;DR: Shit happens, rally helps. Good talk, have a good one.
Absolutely.
That depends whether I have a boss with the same antedeluvian views as you.
Categorically false. On the contrary, I have absolutely zero respect for arbitrary censorship, especially when enforced by abusing a position of authority.
As someone whose native language isn’t English either, that’s part of the fun of language: that it has nuance and context-based variations. You might as well argue that idioms should be banned 🙄
See also: humor, less rigid expression, creativity. Those are probably not concepts you have any first hand experience with, but go ahead and look them up.
Ambiguity and flexibility limit the richness of language?? I’d ask what you’re smoking, but you seem too uptight to ever try something fun.
They are if you have no understanding about how language works. Then again, so are all other words in your doubtlessly very limited vocabulary.
Same with mine, tbh. Danish is a very weird language. Some would say downright bizarre and I’m not sure if I disagree…
…is your weird native language Finnish? Because rally racing is extremely popular in Finland 😛
I’m inclined to disagree on the first half but yeah, have a nice day lol
Yeah, Finnish.
I don’t respect your hostility in the discussion. This comment reinforces that you and me merely have fundamentally differing opinions about the matter and there will be no conclusion.
As for the rigidity of the discussion: I’m of the school of thought that strives for efficient communication and of the paradigm that things should argue, not people. I’m in this to learn stuff and learn about your opinion, not to clash with you.
But I’ve come to realize that internet forums generally are filled with people who get empowered with argumentation errors and thus attempt at civilized discussion tends to be fools errand.
You seem to have interesting opinions and so if you’d like to continue this discussion further, my Matrix handle is in the bio.
Your mom is very versatile, and good. I assume I don’t need to mention the implied word here
So wearing a shirt that says “I’m just here to make love to the popcorn bucket” would have been just fine in your book?
Not gonna lie, that does have a funnier ring to it
You can’t skip foreplay with the bucket.
Lol you go ahead put yourself out in public however you are comfortable.
And yet the question remains unanswered!
Finding the shirt crass because it references a lewd act is understandable, as is objecting to it because Timmy the ten year old who is at the theater is going to ask his parents some interesting questions after reading the shirt.
Objecting to it solely because it uses a dirty word is … pretty fucking stupid.
I don’t really object to poor language in general. It’s tacky to blast it in public. Time and place.
Boy, folks on Lemmy just can’t help but double down, can they?
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Ftw
“fuck” you
From the guy whose username appears to be “This is Anal”
Lololol I hadn’t even noticed. 🤣
Your mind did that 100% my friend! The camel case is pretty clear.