• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          I’m seeing quite a few months of primaries to go

          And quite a lot of Biden still supporting Genocide.

          So uncommitted it is.

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            10 months ago

            Oh, I see. You were just playing dumb to parrot “genocide joe.” My bad. I shouldn’t have given you the benefit of the doubt.

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              You know at some point you’re going to have to consider it’s the moral obligation of Biden and the people supporting him sending weapons to Israel to change.

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                It’s sad that you think playing dumb is a requirement to think that.

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                  What’s really sad is that you think what you’re doing is going to change anyone’s mind about how they’re going to vote.

                  You can be angry at people like me accusing Joe Biden of supporting genocide but if you need our votes the choice in front of you is pretty simple. Keep defending Biden and risk democracy, or do everything you can to get Biden to compromise with us.

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                    What’s really sad is that you think what you’re doing is going to change anyone’s mind about how they’re going to vote.

                    lol. My man, you asked a question, and I answered it (assuming you weren’t being disingenuous). All I’ve done since then is call out your BS. There was no attempt to change anyone’s vote. This is quite the projection.

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        They are more or less. It’s part of why our primary system sucks. There’s still downballot races though and you can and should vote for progressives to be the Democrat nominee in them. And you can cast a symbolic noncommitted for president to express displeasure with Biden.

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        10 months ago

        Biden has more than half the total delegate count already pledged to him. Primaries are over, Biden has won regardless of the outcome of the remaining primaries and will be the democratic nominee in 2024.

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          10 months ago

          What did anyone actually think Uncommitted was going to take the nomination or something?

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        Hidenberg handed Hitler the chancellorship. Hidenberg, the only check on the Nazi power, remained president until his death until 1934. After which, using the Enabling Act, Hitler was able to proclaim himself both chancellor and president.

        Hitler becomes chancellor because Brünig, Hidenberg, Papen, and Schleicher all think they can control and temper Hitler all while staying in power and keeping the left wing out of power.

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            I was contending “Nazis lost the election to Hindenburg … and came to power anyway in 1933 regardless.” Hitler didn’t come to power for some amorphous reasons, but specific decisions by people in power. I agree that material conditions are important, but it’s so vague here that it’s meaningless and can be shifted at any point in this discussion to support your position.

            The Nazis agitated support on multiple fronts including electoral politics. Hindenburg surrounded himself with other military conservative and as conditions in the streets continued to worse economically and support swung to the nsdap, they urged him to give support to Hitler. However, the Nazis had won a plurality of the vote in every Reitsrat election starting in 1930.

            Electoral politics alone isn’t the answer. Never was. Garnering support on the ground is difficult work.

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                Your initial presentation was vague. I agree that it could be made clear, but your initial posts just hinted at it.

                There are some similarities and a some important differences. If you don’t acknowledge the differences. I think you haphazardly write responses with half remembered idiomatic expressions, sensationalism, and simplistic thinking.

                With that said, you land in positions I might agree with. But you do a disservice to leftists. Do better.