• deweydecibel@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    After months of hearing about how Final Fantasy needed to become Devil May Cry because RPGs are dead, watching Buldurs Gate succeed and FF16 fall short of expectations is kind of cathartic.

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      1 year ago

      FF16 sold really well though. Square Enix likes making unrealistic expectations for their games and they do it every time. I don’t think they even believe their expectations are real. The real reason for their share loss is increased operational costs.

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        1 year ago

        Capcom was guilty of this 10-15 years ago with the infamous “Capcom test” where they would release a small project or re-release a game in a franchise they were floating around ideas for a new entry in, and if the small game or re-release didn’t sell basically like a new AAA game, the franchise didn’t get the new entry. This was part of how the company was basically reduced to only Resident Evil and Street Fighter for a time. Fortunately they eventually snapped out of it, probably when they realized you can’t make the kind of money you used to make when you’re effectively killing off all but two of your IPs due to stupid sales expectations. Square Enix will probably hit that point eventually as well.

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        1 year ago

        FF15 sold 5 million copies on the first day, while FF16 took a few days to get to 3 million. It’s not selling as well as 15. Anecdotally I’m seeing far less discussion of it online than when 15 came out.

        They also have more competition this year. Personally I won’t get it till it’s on sale because I haven’t enjoyed a FF game much in a long time, so I don’t really trust them anymore even if critic reviews are positive.

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      1 year ago

      Baldurs gate sold great for larian, those are square enix numbers, and not numbers that would cover the investment square makes into their games. You know this surely.

      I’m sure you are also aware of how many turn based games square puts out every year? Spoiler it’s more than everyone else.

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      1 year ago

      After months of hearing about how Final Fantasy needed to become Devil May Cry because RPGs are dead…

      This sounds like a strawman to me. Maybe you meant that people were claiming that “JRPGs are dead”? In which case, holding up Baldur’s Gate 3 of evidence to counter that seems strange. But I haven’t heard anyone saying that RPGs in general are a dying genre.