• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    It imposes a punishment without trial. That’s a Bill of Attainder.

    And being as ethical as China isn’t a line I want to stand on.

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      8 months ago

      You’re missing a very key part of it, I assume on purpose. It imposes a punishment for a crime. No one is accusing them of a crime. I don’t know where you got this idea from, but they’re wrong. They may have said it very confidently, but it’s incorrect. Doing this to “protect national security” is perfectly fine. The intent is not to punish them.

      https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/bill_of_attainder

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        8 months ago

        Oh, that makes it okay then.

        We’re going to pass a law that punishes a someone or a group, but it’s okay if we just don’t say, “they’re guilty of X.”

        Somehow I don’t think the courts are going to share your interpretation. And in your own article they do not. Nowhere in the test does it state the bill must name a crime.

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          8 months ago

          The last bullet for determining if it’s punishment: “Was that a congressional intent for the statute to further punitive goals.”

          It fails that test. It isn’t any sort if punishment. It’s for “national security”.

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            8 months ago

            Oh? Could have fooled me. The anti-China statements from politicians are admissable.

            If the government is allowed to hand waive anything under “national security” then it’s a short trip to the work camp for us all.