It’s not that religion got better, it became weaker. And at this point there a lot of people in the West who don’t subscribe to it hard enough to ignore attrocities. It’s important to know it’s not individual faith, it’s institution that kisses, sloppy style with corporations and governments and supports or even inspires their agenda. Islam in the East could be powerless just like christianity elsewhere if it wasn’t married to power-hungry reactionary governments. And even buddhists, who has a white-as-a-bedsheet reputation in the West, did a genocide of muslims in Myanmar. At this point I believe even My Little Pony can become the proclaimed reason for genocide and torture if some congregation of power and force put it on as a mask. And it’s a shame that most sceptics who aren’t into that BS are less centralized, cooperative, than religious shmucks by their nature.
It actually got better before it got weaker. All those Catholic institutions we tie to the bad parts about Christianity in mass culture (a-and in Sabatini books, et cetera) were actively and productively working against barbaric shit, also influencing legal practices in non-religious matters as a result.
I upvoted your opinion as a legit one, but I don’t really agree with that. Even after christianity got somehow okay, we had these fellow christians massacre american natives and roping indians to cannons en masse as they were thought of as barbarians. Even in Iraq, Chechnya, Afganistan, there were still traces of this dehumanization not only by racism, but by religion too. At least that’s what I’ve heard from soldiers who served in these places themselves. It’s hard to rationally dissect religious hate from racism, but they usually go hand in hand now. We won’t, hopefully, slay another thousand of white Yugoslavian people over it, but for brown persons it’s an open question. Still, at least some progress.
we had these fellow christians massacre american natives and roping indians to cannons en masse as they were thought of as barbarians.
Which Catholic clergy was formally protesting all the time, expressing horror and disgust in official documents etc. Islamic religious authorities are now, today, at best split on what ISIS was doing.
It’s hard to rationally dissect religious hate from racism, but they usually go hand in hand now.
Yes, it’s just that among “brown people” non-Muslims are more often victimized by Muslims than vice versa.
I understand that in historically Christian societies people want to clear their own conscience first, and American Christian supporters of Israel are a good example of how it looks when they don’t, but Islam is a bigger problem than Christianity.
Comparatively, yes, even for themselves, but we had a bad time trying to meddle in their politics and are partially responsible for another wave of radical uprising.
Is it though a correct way to view everything muslim as bad and christianity as miles better than this? Giving christianity an unequal treatment is asking for some MAGA shitheads to overturn another handful of human rights. They are insane bigots who use religion as their tool too.
Yes, it’s just that among “brown people” non-Muslims are more often victimized by Muslims than vice versa.
That’s known, right. In my lovely country ch3chen forces even steal people on the streets if they are dare to speak up, if they don’t want to marry a picked partner or god-forbid if they are gay. If it wasn’t allowed by my own federal gov, they couldn’t have stolen a poor girl from fucking Moscow that’s not heard of for a year+ after that. But it’s not even on ch3chens, the inaction and enabling of our own forces if what makes me angry the most, as with other governments exchanging political prisoners with insane states.
and are partially responsible for another wave of radical uprising.
Not sure if “partially” is even needed here, mohajeds are Muslim Socialists sired by the USSR and the West initially, who grew out of control, Al-Qaeda were sired by the USA and grew out of control, Ba’ath (Arab NS give or take) was born of many things, none particularly Arab or Muslim.
Something very basic, barbaric, simple and universal for that part of the world had to emerge.
Is it though a correct way to view everything muslim as bad and christianity as miles better than this?
No, but this principle shouldn’t be tied to constants anyway.
If it wasn’t allowed by my own federal gov, they couldn’t have stolen a poor girl from fucking Moscow that’s not heard of for a year+ after that.
They have kidnapped people from Armenia in the past. Recently there was a news article that another such attempt failed, but the beginning was pretty wild - over some connections or acquaintances girl’s uncle simply told some people in the Armenian police to arrest her and they fscking did.
And I think I’ve read about Chechens being kidnapped even in the EU.
But it’s not even on ch3chens, the inaction and enabling of our own forces if what makes me angry the most, as with other governments exchanging political prisoners with insane states.
Russia is one country in the world where minarchism (the second letter is “i”) would be absolutely for the best. Faking of everything seems to be so ingrained in the society that only a Darwinist mechanism can help.
It’s not that religion got better, it became weaker. And at this point there a lot of people in the West who don’t subscribe to it hard enough to ignore attrocities. It’s important to know it’s not individual faith, it’s institution that kisses, sloppy style with corporations and governments and supports or even inspires their agenda. Islam in the East could be powerless just like christianity elsewhere if it wasn’t married to power-hungry reactionary governments. And even buddhists, who has a white-as-a-bedsheet reputation in the West, did a genocide of muslims in Myanmar. At this point I believe even My Little Pony can become the proclaimed reason for genocide and torture if some congregation of power and force put it on as a mask. And it’s a shame that most sceptics who aren’t into that BS are less centralized, cooperative, than religious shmucks by their nature.
It actually got better before it got weaker. All those Catholic institutions we tie to the bad parts about Christianity in mass culture (a-and in Sabatini books, et cetera) were actively and productively working against barbaric shit, also influencing legal practices in non-religious matters as a result.
I upvoted your opinion as a legit one, but I don’t really agree with that. Even after christianity got somehow okay, we had these fellow christians massacre american natives and roping indians to cannons en masse as they were thought of as barbarians. Even in Iraq, Chechnya, Afganistan, there were still traces of this dehumanization not only by racism, but by religion too. At least that’s what I’ve heard from soldiers who served in these places themselves. It’s hard to rationally dissect religious hate from racism, but they usually go hand in hand now. We won’t, hopefully, slay another thousand of white Yugoslavian people over it, but for brown persons it’s an open question. Still, at least some progress.
Which Catholic clergy was formally protesting all the time, expressing horror and disgust in official documents etc. Islamic religious authorities are now, today, at best split on what ISIS was doing.
Yes, it’s just that among “brown people” non-Muslims are more often victimized by Muslims than vice versa.
I understand that in historically Christian societies people want to clear their own conscience first, and American Christian supporters of Israel are a good example of how it looks when they don’t, but Islam is a bigger problem than Christianity.
Comparatively, yes, even for themselves, but we had a bad time trying to meddle in their politics and are partially responsible for another wave of radical uprising.
Is it though a correct way to view everything muslim as bad and christianity as miles better than this? Giving christianity an unequal treatment is asking for some MAGA shitheads to overturn another handful of human rights. They are insane bigots who use religion as their tool too.
That’s known, right. In my lovely country ch3chen forces even steal people on the streets if they are dare to speak up, if they don’t want to marry a picked partner or god-forbid if they are gay. If it wasn’t allowed by my own federal gov, they couldn’t have stolen a poor girl from fucking Moscow that’s not heard of for a year+ after that. But it’s not even on ch3chens, the inaction and enabling of our own forces if what makes me angry the most, as with other governments exchanging political prisoners with insane states.
Not sure if “partially” is even needed here, mohajeds are Muslim Socialists sired by the USSR and the West initially, who grew out of control, Al-Qaeda were sired by the USA and grew out of control, Ba’ath (Arab NS give or take) was born of many things, none particularly Arab or Muslim.
Something very basic, barbaric, simple and universal for that part of the world had to emerge.
No, but this principle shouldn’t be tied to constants anyway.
They have kidnapped people from Armenia in the past. Recently there was a news article that another such attempt failed, but the beginning was pretty wild - over some connections or acquaintances girl’s uncle simply told some people in the Armenian police to arrest her and they fscking did.
And I think I’ve read about Chechens being kidnapped even in the EU.
Russia is one country in the world where minarchism (the second letter is “i”) would be absolutely for the best. Faking of everything seems to be so ingrained in the society that only a Darwinist mechanism can help.