At last! Users from Ubuntu 24.04 onwards that's scheduled to release on April 25th should hopefully see a smoother Linux gaming experience.
    • Malix@sopuli.xyz
      30·
      8 months ago

      Hastily read around in the related issue-threads and seems like on it’s own the vm.max_map_count doesn’t do much… as long as apps behave. It’s some sort of “guard rail” which prevents processes of getting too many “maps”. Still kinda unclear what these maps are and what happens is a process gets to have excessive amounts.

      That said: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/99913

      According to kernel-doc/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt:

      • This file contains the maximum number of memory map areas a process may have. Memory map areas are used as a side-effect of calling malloc, directly by mmap and mprotect, and also when loading shared libraries.
      • While most applications need less than a thousand maps, certain programs, particularly malloc debuggers, may consume lots of them, e.g., up to one or two maps per allocation.
      • The default value is 65530.
      • Lowering the value can lead to problematic application behavior because the system will return out of memory errors when a process reaches the limit. The upside of lowering this limit is that it can free up lowmem for other kernel uses.
      • Raising the limit may increase the memory consumption on the server. There is no immediate consumption of the memory, as this will be used only when the software requests, but it can allow a larger application footprint on the server.

      So, on the risk of higher memory usage, application can go wroom-wroom? That’s my takeaway from this.

      edit: ofc. I pasted the wrong link first. derrr.

      edit: Suse’s documentation has some info about the effects of this setting: https://www.suse.com/support/kb/doc/?id=000016692

      • psycho_driver@lemmy.world
        16·
        8 months ago

        The default value is 65530

        Just checked and the steam deck has it set to 2147483642. My gentoo systems are 65530.

        • Malix@sopuli.xyz
          91·
          8 months ago

          On one hand, I’d assume Valve knows what they’re doing, but also setting the value that high seems like it’s effectively removing the guardrail alltogether. Is that safe, also what is the worst that can happen if an app starts using maps in the billions?

            • Malix@sopuli.xyz
              5·
              8 months ago

              no arguments there. Still, I kinda feel that raising the limit high enough to effectively turn off the limit is probably bit overboard. But, if it works, it works, but the kernel devs probably put the limit in place for a reason too.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            8 months ago

            The whole point is to prevent one process from using too much memory. The whole point of the Steam Deck is to have one process use all the memory.

            So it makes sense to keep it relatively low for servers where runaway memory use is a bug that should crash the process, but not in a gaming scenario where high memory usage is absolutely expected.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        8 months ago

        My read is that it matters for servers where a large number of allocations could indicate a bug/denial of service, so it’s better to crash the process.

        That’s not relevant on a gaming system, since you want one process to be able to use all the resources.

    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
      11·
      8 months ago

      It changed it for playing “the finals” some weeks ago to fix a crash. I havent had any issues with my system since then so it really might just be some value that never changed because nothing needed it.

    • umbrella@lemmy.ml
      4·
      8 months ago

      also want to know, i increased this value by a lot for gaming and have been using it ever since with no visible repercussions.

  • Mactan@lemmy.ml
    4·
    8 months ago

    this is great, my lug has a script we have to share around for new Linux users to increase this and it will be nice with more distros having this set high by default

    • shadowintheday2@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      8 months ago

      Arch is having internal discussions to increase it. Might be something upstream may adopt if all major distributions end up increasing it.

      • sirsquid@lemmy.ml
        1·
        8 months ago

        Ah okay, thought the mods were doing their thing again, they do keep removing gol posts <_<, i deleted my reddit account - all in on lemmy and fediverse now (but appreciate you sharing it there!)

  • Unyieldingly@lemmy.world
    1·
    8 months ago

    Fedora changed it as well some time back you can use sudo sysctl -w vm.max_map_count=2147483642 to match the SteamDeck with Fedora.

  • raw@lemmy.ml
    1·
    8 months ago

    Raise it ! There is only benefits for your gaming experience in Linux.