Is just such a shock from being in China. Just got harassed and essentially threatened for being a socialist. They searched my bags and commented on my China flag and my little red books and my copy of Blackshirts and Reds. Fucking police state. The security in China is strict, but they don’t give a fuck about your thoughts, whereas this guy was very aggressive about “consequences” for being a socialist.

  • ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml
    472·
    7 months ago

    Random person: tell what they experienced during their trip in China

    Smug lib: “Are you sure you really experienced what you say you did? Me (who has never been to China) think you are mistaken.”

    • nxdefiant@startrek.website
      229·
      7 months ago

      There’s a huge difference between “I experienced this” and “I’m extrapolating a huge generalization from my tiny shred of experience”.

      • ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml
        401·
        7 months ago

        I have heard plenty of first hand accounts from people who were born there, who live there, and elsewhere who go back to visit family often, that say otherwise.

        There’s a huge difference between “I experienced this” and “I’m extrapolating a huge generalization from my tiny shred of experience”.

        You managed to contradict yourself in consecutive comments, I’m impressed.

          • ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml
            321·
            7 months ago

            You sure come across as confrontational and smug for someone who’s just asking questions, and that doesn’t negate the fact that you contradicted yourself.

          • RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml
            142·
            7 months ago

            “Im just asking questions” is what fascists say to inquire about why the “globalists” have so much control over banking.

            Sure, you’re “just asking questions”, buddy. Sure…

          • Amanduh@lemm.ee
            12·
            7 months ago

            There is no reason here, just come and enjoy the funny zoo animals :)

      • deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml
        22·
        7 months ago

        I have heard plenty of first hand accounts from people who were born there, who live there, and elsewhere who go back to visit family often, that say otherwise.

        Also you

        here’s a huge difference between “I experienced this” and “I’m extrapolating a huge generalization from my tiny shred of experience”.

        When did he claim that, eh?

        Yeah, nah, I’m just gonna do a whataboutism on you and ask you about their experiences… for all I know, these people are affiliated with National Endowment for Democracy and other western NGOs, because that would explain a lot

        You seem like pro-regime changer, so I guess agree to disagree…

        • nxdefiant@startrek.website
          219·
          7 months ago

          “Their security” is a bit broad, no? I mean, what are the error bars on that? One airport? That’s the bar (I think?) from the American side, so I’m guessing it’s the same for the Chinese side.

          • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.mlOP
            231·
            7 months ago

            Multiple airports, train stations, subway lines, bus stations. But, I can only really speak for northern China and Beijing, I’ll give you that.

            • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
              15·
              7 months ago

              Ive been to Shenzhen before from the UK, most intense security was in the UK.

              I will say Chinese people do get survailled, but its usually in the case of them studying abroad, they will ask people to check in to a local embassy infrequently to make sure they arent fleeing there VISA, which most countires actually ask you to do lol.

              • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.mlOP
                4·
                7 months ago

                That didn’t happen to my wife or her family despite her living abroad for a decade and her dad for more than two decades. Not to say it doesn’t happen now, or at all, just that the people I know haven’t experienced that.

          • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.mlOP
            81·
            7 months ago

            So…. Just come in, shit all over, and then leave without even responding to me once? I’ll be sure to remember your username in the future so I don’t waste time on bad faith arguments from you. Cheers!