• scoobford
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    8 months ago

    So…instead of loans, you’re advocating that people form corporations where shares are bought over time instead?

    You’ll still have to pay some interest to motivate the other party to invest, all you’ve really done is generate a bunch of extra paperwork to spin up a corporation.

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      8 months ago

      The idea is to avoid the expense spiraling out of control due to exponential growth.

      In order to motivate your business partner, you should have a contract that defines the price of the stocks in a favorable way. It’s like buying and selling really. The lender pays 4300 € for the car, and sells it at a higher price, such as 4600 €.

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        8 months ago

        Oh, if you’re trying to prevent usury, it would be far simpler to either cap interest rates or ban compound interest in favor of simple interest.

        Rate caps are the simplest solution least likely to backfire, but unfortunately they tend to push people away from legitimate sources of lending, so you do have to be careful that they aren’t too low.

        Like I said, forming a corporation isn’t a simple thing, doing it to organize a personal loan would take up an enormous amount of time and money, and result in substantially fewer consumer protections.

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          8 months ago

          Well, now that taking a loan is fast and easy, people tend to spend the money they don’t have and buy the things they can’t afford. Having some sort of a speed bump along the way should make people think a little more and avoid getting into unnecessary debt.

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            8 months ago

            I agree, but forming a corp is time consuming in an expensive way, you need (usually) retain lawyers and an accounting firm.

            I think it would be better if getting credit were subject to income and asset verification, and most importantly that the government make sure eligibility verification is not abusive, discriminatory, or inconsistent in nature.

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          8 months ago

          if you’re trying to prevent usury

          Muslims got you.

          Anyone’s guess if it works, but they’ve been doing the complicated “riba bad” maths for a while now.

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            8 months ago

            I have some professional awareness of Islamic banking. It kind of works, but it’s definitely a kludge to make modern-ish finance possible without violating religious law.