• B1naryB0t@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    20·
    3 months ago

    No of course not. But there is a Zionist conspiracy to create an ethnostate of Israel and genocide the native Palestinian population.

    Israel does not speak for Jewish people and hating genocide is about as far as you can get from hating Jewish people.

    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
      6·
      3 months ago

      It’s just math, you can dislike Israelis and still like the jewish population.

      A large minority of Israeli jews is thoroughly against the Palestinian extermination efforts, and a majority of international jews are thoroughly against said attempts. So therefore it’s only an evil subset of the Israeli population and a minority of the Jewish population.

    • maculata@aussie.zone
      4·
      3 months ago

      I hate Genocide, and I think Netenyahu probably stirred up the whole mess to distract from his legal problems.

      • Quexotic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        41·
        3 months ago

        Kinda like the US used the twin towers to justify a “war on terror”?

        Definitely not preventable, definitely.

          • Quexotic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            Not beyond plausible deniability.

            I believe that they had enough information to have prevented it and failed to do so to the extent that it was intentional or that it was profoundly negligent. I remember investigations afterwards turning up some troubling evidence.

            Consider this too… If Japan is a known aggressor, and you want to be prepared, why do you keep your pacific fleet in a state of anything less than high alert?

            In both cases, the events did much to motivate a nation to support a war.

            I don’t believe that anyone (least of all myself) in the general public will ever have all the answers, but the manufacture of consent is a dark business. If you don’t have trust issues, you should.

            Another prime example is government agencies manufacturing the drug epidemic and using the proceeds to fund black ops.

            So that’s the long answer, the short answer is that I don’t have enough faith to believe 100% that they weren’t. The track record isn’t stellar and while it’s clear they didn’t pull the trigger, there are numerous inconsistencies.

            I do believe that jet fuel along with the contents of the building can and does melt steel beams. Lol.

            None of which is meant to convince anyone, rather to illustrate a lack of trust.

              • Quexotic@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                1·
                3 months ago

                No. My memory suits me fine and I couldn’t care less whether I convince anyone. I’m expressing my distrust and explaining why, not writing an essay. I think your expectations are a bit high for a frustrated diatribe written by an absolute stranger while watching TV. 😁

                Regardless, if you want to trust the government, have at it. Feel free to consider me as just another geriatric fool shouting at clouds.

                At the very least both incidents were used to manufacture consent in a devious way, in the twin towers case to start a war that is even now considered to be completely unjustifiable. Consider Joe biden’s advice to Benjamin netanyahu “Don’t make the same mistake we did” no doubt referring to our reaction to the destruction of the towers and his subsequent beating of the war drums.

                In the case of Pearl harbor, even if there was some sort of conspiracy behind just negligence, it was a justified act to involve the country in a war that would otherwise have reached our doorstep regardless.

                I do sincerely hope you have a pleasant day. Take care internet stranger 😁