There is always a way to disable a machine. The button has power. At the very least, the power to that button should be locked out. If it has to happen at the breaker, so be it.
I’m only replying for visibility at this point because of the upvotes and the dangerous scenarios that are being promoted with this advice. Breaker with LOTO would be more acceptable but even then I wouldn’t trust it. People have been killed because something was wired up wrong and circuits were accidentally connected (meaning breakers off but currents still going from a connection down the line to another breaker, it can appear that the circuit is dead until a switch is flipped sending current and happens in home lighting constantly). Also, someone can simply plug the device into another outlet leaving them with a death on their hands.
I know it’s dramatic and these are just comments, but something like this could save or take a life. I’ve seen too many workplace accidents and refuse to work in unsafe conditions or environments anymore even if it costs me the job. Last unsafe worksite I was in, nearly all of the workers walked out together when we arrived in the morning to start at a new site and saw what the project manager had in store for us (probably helped that the owner was hated and payroll had been getting screwed up for weeks). I’ll never forget that day and still keep in contact with most of them. We are all waiting and scared for the day a mass casualty is reported from the shitty work they were trying to make us do (some did report it to the authorities, but never heard what came of those reports).
If equipment has a removable power feed, the plug follows the worker into the kill zone or the work doesn’t get done. If the plug doesn’t reach, and LOTO doesn’t happen, the plug gets disassembled and brought into the kill zone until the worker returns it.
Deaths because lazy are at the feet of management.
If a tool or machine can simply be unplugged, and the worker performing the service remains in control of the plug, then lockout procedures aren’t necessary.
why aren’t they doing lockout tagout?
Same thing I thought, unless there isn’t a place for a lock.
There is always a way to disable a machine. The button has power. At the very least, the power to that button should be locked out. If it has to happen at the breaker, so be it.
Only if the breaker has it’s own system for LOTO. You guys are going to get people killed lol.
Yes yes, sorry I thought my phrasing made that clear, but it wasn’t.
Breaker feeding the thing power.
I’m only replying for visibility at this point because of the upvotes and the dangerous scenarios that are being promoted with this advice. Breaker with LOTO would be more acceptable but even then I wouldn’t trust it. People have been killed because something was wired up wrong and circuits were accidentally connected (meaning breakers off but currents still going from a connection down the line to another breaker, it can appear that the circuit is dead until a switch is flipped sending current and happens in home lighting constantly). Also, someone can simply plug the device into another outlet leaving them with a death on their hands.
I know it’s dramatic and these are just comments, but something like this could save or take a life. I’ve seen too many workplace accidents and refuse to work in unsafe conditions or environments anymore even if it costs me the job. Last unsafe worksite I was in, nearly all of the workers walked out together when we arrived in the morning to start at a new site and saw what the project manager had in store for us (probably helped that the owner was hated and payroll had been getting screwed up for weeks). I’ll never forget that day and still keep in contact with most of them. We are all waiting and scared for the day a mass casualty is reported from the shitty work they were trying to make us do (some did report it to the authorities, but never heard what came of those reports).
Yes absolutely yes.
If equipment has a removable power feed, the plug follows the worker into the kill zone or the work doesn’t get done. If the plug doesn’t reach, and LOTO doesn’t happen, the plug gets disassembled and brought into the kill zone until the worker returns it.
Deaths because lazy are at the feet of management.
Can they not just, unplug it, and put tape over the power point.
If a tool or machine can simply be unplugged, and the worker performing the service remains in control of the plug, then lockout procedures aren’t necessary.