Amazon warns workers to come back into the office::This week, a reminder email was sent to employees who didn’t work on-site at least three times a week.

  • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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    1 year ago

    If companies like Amazon and Zoom are pushing people back into the office, maybe they are finding issues with full remote work.

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      1 year ago

      That’s assuming rational leadership. That’s pretty rare.

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        1 year ago

        I’m not expecting rationality, but I’m expecting a somewhat consistent strategy. If a company makes decisions the same way five times, I expect them to make decisions the same way the sixth.

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          But you’re not pointing out anything about consistency? You just implied Amazon and Zoom making the same decision means they had some level of knowledge about undefined “issues.”

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            I’ve said Amazon and Zoom likely have internal data driving this decision.

            Also, per a lot of documentation, Amazon focuses a lot on efficiency with metrics and will do whatever to make those metrics go up. So, in Amazon’s case, I can’t imagine the company making a decision to push efficiently metrics down just to fill an office.

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              So yeah, you’re making a lot of assumptions that they’re making rational decisions based on data. That’s what I said to begin with.

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        1 year ago

        They’ve also gone through rounds of layoffs.

        If full remote workers can be cheaper for Amazon, why is the company choosing to make this a criteria for remaining employed?

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            At least you’ve proposed a possible reason that would make sense in some companies.

            However, Amazon has routinely burnt out employees and hired replacements. Loyalty doesn’t seem to be rewarded at Amazon, so I don’t know why they would institute a loyalty test now.

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              It’s like the old saying about how fascists cannibalize themselves, even if Amazon leadership hasn’t shown that they value loyalty it’s probably still a very sought after trait among their employees since the loyal ones grumble the least, true believers are always the biggest enablers in cults, and HR operates very similar the part of cult leadership that maintains cult discipline and beliefs, they’re the corporate true believers, and loyalty is always the most sought after trait in cultists.

              But hey it’s just a theory, I don’t work for Amazon and I doubt I ever would, but I do know quite a few people who do and from their stories they make it sound very similar to places like Walmart in terms of culture and not giving a fuck about their employees.

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                Yeah, but at least your theory makes more sense than people saying that Amazon executives feel the need to fill office space due to “reasons”.

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              They don’t reward loyalty. They profit from it. Their greed is catching on to them though. They have mostly gone through all the available workers for warehouses and they know they are running out of people willing to give them a chance. Most people know it’s a shit place for engineers as well.

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          Remote worker are probably much cheaper in the long run, but these companies typically lock in long-term leases in commercial real estate. The benefits might not be realized before 5-10 years.

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            Most commercial leases are 3-5 years. Even then, why would a CEO tolerate killing productivity to use a resource people don’t need?

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                That is the US. Typical leases are 3-5 years. There are longer ones, but they are generally rare.

                Given that Amazon’s policy affects mainly US employees, I assume that is the case with Amazon.

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      Shame they never actually produce the supposed evidence of this. Just vague statements and platitudes that wax poetic about years gone by.

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      There are zero things I need in the office to do my job and I get everything done when I WFH in a timely and efficient manner. So what if I also get to watch old movies while I do it? I get it done and I do it well. Bosses just want to monitor your life because they think if you take so much as a minute off, you’re costing them money and it’s utter bullshit.