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        The 3rd party apps are closing at the end of this month, which means there’ll be somewhere around a week or so of people realising just how bad the official app is, plus decreased quality content as the actually-motivated people who post things continue their gradual migration away from reddit and driving redditors to seek other places to gather.

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          Meanwhile all of the repost bots can post and comment on each other’s threads keeping the Reddit server humming away.

          Good riddance.

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            It’s kinda funny in a dystopian way.

            A lonely guy playing a creepy hentai game gets some sexual gratification from his time spent interacting with a piece of software and is at least somewhat self-aware. He knows it’s just software, even if he ‘married’ his bodypillow.

            Meanwhile there are increasing numbers of people unaware they’re regularly interacting with bots online, not realising one of the reasons social media is making them sadder is because they’ve atttempting to fulfill their need for social interaction with a facsimile thereof.

            It’s not unlike Idiocracy, where they give the plants Brawndo instead of water, then wonder why the plants are dying. Vast swathes of the world are feeding their social needs with social media brawndo.

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              On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a bot

              Also you’re blaming the medium, rather than the malicious actors.

              If AI text generative technology was around a century earlier you’d have people being penpals or print newspaper write-ins with a bot instead. Communicating through text is inherently risky, so best to blame the people who abuse that fact instead.

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                you’re blaming the medium

                I don’t think that’s implied in the post. Also reddit inc is complicit in the bot farming since it boosts their engagement metrics.

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                The medium structures and drives the interactions. Decisions about the medium are amplified in effect. (Some) people have always been bad, but what they do and what effect it has varies with the medium.

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            At some point, it will just be repost bots having conversations in the comments of posts “created” by other repost bots.

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              I realized that after deleting my oldest reddit account I should have sold the damn thing.

              Might work out how to do that yet for my remaining accounts

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                  Yup. I’m Anarch157a everywhere (except Mastodon, for reasons), Steam, Lemmy, Discord, etc. Having my old - now deleted - Reddit account as a bot could spill over my identity in other services.

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                Where did you find pricing info? I wouldn’t have guessed accounts would be worth much with the rampant botting

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                  Accounts with 100,000+ karma are $200 and up, apparently. Source: savingadvice dot com /articles/2023/05/31/1089629_sell-your-reddit-account.html

                  On playerup dot com /acconts/redditacconut/ I see one “rare account” that’s 13 years old going for $120 and a 14 year old one for $150

                  Most are a few years old, just barely a few thousand karma, and $17-25.

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            Meanwhile all of the repost bots can post and comment on each other’s threads keeping the Reddit server humming away.

            How are they going to do that when the API changes hit? The API changes affect all third party interactions with Reddit unless you scrape their HTML or do some type of browser automation. I’m going to assume that 99% of developers are using the REST API since there was no reason to do otherwise. That means mobile apps, bots, third party tools and probably even some browser extensions are all going to go dark.

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          I just wish more people knew to come here. I even snuck this alternative into a presentation at a Fortune 150…

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            People will come, it’s just a matter of time and having the patience to cultivate organic communities rather than trying to simply will them into existence all at once a la GooglePlus (or whatever their attempt at a social network was called)

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              like everything google kills it was the best of it’s kind but wasn’t immediately profitable so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          I have only used the official app and can I just say, the experience has gotten noticeably worse in the past 6 weeks or so.

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            I have to wait 3 seconds to load a post. Collapsing a comment is laggy, takes like 0.5 seconds at least. Scrolling itself is laggy.
            It sure doesn’t seem like a lot when I write seconds but it’s absolutely TERRIBLE when you use it more than a minute. I only have official app for chat and instant messages because Infinity didn’t send me any notifications :( I’ll use old reddit on mobile with an extension that helps with mobile usage, along with official reddit for the aforementioned functions as usual.

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        It’ll take about a week for the ‘find out’ phase to wrap up, then we’re onto the lesser known ‘baby please come back I can change’ phase.

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        I’m guessing it’s because it’s a week after 3rd party apps shut down. A lot will change when that happens, and the 7th is far enough from the 30th to feel it.

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    goood!
    Reddit behaved in such a horrible way, that I feel like API pricing was the least of the bad…

    One could argue about their fairness and aim to destroy 3rd party apps, and I had already closed my accounts at that very step.

    But the way they treated mods, forced subs to open and behaved like pure evil assholes, I really see how companies or more “official” subreddits with a touch of interest in their users, would feel the desire to leave and close bridges

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      I feel the same way.
      As an Apollo user, I didn’t immediately leave since I wanted to see if some agreement would be done.

      But the way they treated the devs is insulting, I work on IT and know a bit of how complex and time consuming this is; doing all this work just to be considered a parasite to be cut, and seeing how horrible the AMA was; really showed Reddit’s true colors.

      Currently liking this federated initiative, big potential and less company ruining agenda. Very comfy here.

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        If Apollo works things out with reddit, I’d be willing to consider keeping reddit as a secondary source of content. But I think that bridge has been burnt so bad that that is highly unlikely

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        I didn’t even use Apollo but the defining moment for me was when spez lied about his interactions with the dev. That shit is foul and I just do not want to associate with that.

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          @midas

          Very much my experience. I used Relay for Reddit rather than Apollo (hadn’t even heard of Apollo at the time), then learned about the entire debacle because that lie appeared in /r/quityourbullshit and that sent me to the AMA the lie was made in.

          I went from not even knowing about any changes coming to Reddit to deciding not to give Reddit any more traffic until they back off and apologize in less than an hour. The blackout hadn’t started yet.

          By the time the blackout had started, I was already on both kbin and beehaw (well, I had applied to beehaw, approval might have been slightly after the blackout started) and the chances of getting me to ever use Reddit being above zero were already dependent on changes that no-one in Reddit leadership would ever accept, let alone come up with on their own.

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        Didn’t even think about it until now, but a company could start their own lemmy service. Wonder if that’s a thing already or will become a thing. The only issue for them is would other instances federated with them, if I’m correct? Still new and learning.

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      I don’t even care about the API prices and I used to use the official Reddit mobile app before migrating.

      I’ve been looking for an open source Reddit like platform since the Twitter drama started and people started migrating to Mastodon, but there wasn’t much content on them, until now, so I jumped on the band wagon.

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        I felt this. I just honestly needed another option and so star this seems to be it. I don’t understand the difference between kbin and lemmy. I’m hoping apps just end up supporting both platforms/instances.

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      The underhanded, lying, victim blaming actions from reddit were so much worse than the shutdown on its own. If reddit had been more honest about their intentions of shutting down 3PA from the beginning, 3PA users still wouldn’t have been thrilled, but we wouldn’t be seeing this reddit meltdown.

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    They wanted out anyway, Microsoft wants control and they were using Reddit just like DJI is using reddit: they were a bit forced to follow. This is a perfect opportunity to leave and make the support happen on their own platform. Other big brands will be inspired and will leave reddit too.

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      the way I read it was that Minecraft is a community that holds the contributions of its base in high regard, and that’s why they can’t associate with reddit anymore because reddit now stands for shitting on its users and destroying their work instead of cherishing it.

      hence the comments about recent changes introduced by management affecting the community and how that’s the reason they feel reddit is no longer an appropriate place.

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          You’re not wrong, but it’s an interesting point you bring up. They were willing to stay on Twitter with Musk’s antics, but it seems like they aren’t willing to put up with another Musk and another set of antics.

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        This is a war of content. u/spez also holds the contribution of his users in high regard, to the point where he is undeleting it. They both want our content, I don’t see how you cannot make the link.

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          Microsoft doesn’t make any money when I play Minecraft on my PC. I paid them once, 14 years ago, for an account.

          I have been receiving new content for free from them on occasion, and playing endless content from the community for mostly free. The community of content creators is what initially brought me to the game when it was in beta and it’s what keeps me coming back.

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            And you never paid anything to reddit either, still reddit wants you to spend your attention here.

            Microsoft doesn’t want to bring traffic to reddit. They have everything to lose when your attention is away from their services. For example you won’t bring your friends to them. You won’t watch their add while you are on reddit. You don’t use a Microsoft platform when you are on reddit.

            This is absolutely not a neutral choice for Microsoft: they want you, your attention, your friends and your content on their network. Why do you think they bought Minecraft in the first place? It’s because it brings young customers in. Microsoft did not purchase Minecraft for the code (there are minecraft clones everywhere anyway), they bought the community. They want to pump their own numbers, not the competition’s. If I remember correctly they also merged the Minecraft accounts with the Microsoft account, isn’t it cute?

            It’s a constant war for your attention time. Your login is the metric, it’s everything to them.

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              While I’m not op, personally for as long as I could remember, I paid for reddit premium. If I’m using a website, I’m ok with putting in support. (especially as much as I used reddit).

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      Minecraft dev here: support on Reddit was always more of a passion project for a few people and not a hard mandate.

      Leaving reddit was the teams choice (I assume for the same reason some of you left, reddit went to shit).

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        Have they considered going someplace else like Lemmy? I was a little disappointed that they didn’t offer an equivalent alternative to go to.

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          At a guess if something like here starts becoming popular with people I suspect they’ll comment here for example. Kbin is growing, see what happens I guess.

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          The “equivalent” is already / has been pushed hard in the launcher and youtube content. Mojang / Microsoft already has it’s own Feedback forum-style thing.

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            Yeah but that was the appeal of things like reddit. Not having to go to all manner of different forums for the specific interest.

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    Looking forward to seeing if this trend will continue with other game platforms; I know the r/GlobalOffensive subreddit spun up the @cs magazine on Kbin a while back, and I’m sure there’s some others that are doing the same.

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    Do you think Microsoft actually cares or this was just a good way to reduce their areas their PR team need support?

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      Microsoft owns Mojang, but by most accounts they are very hands-off with the company. I don’t think Microsoft proper had any input on this decision.

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    He could come here. We have a nice Minecraft magazine with, well quite frankly very little content so far. But he is welcome to post updates here.

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    Holy shit. That’s actually pretty huge. I have a feeling a lot of companies are going to realize how hostile reddit can be and stop officially supporting the subreddits. How much longer will /r/DestinyTheGame be supported? Ninja Kiwi only posts the full patch notes for BTD6 on the /r/BTD6 subreddit, will that go away?