And it won’t be an unventilated, 100 sf, 120 degree Faraday cage that will collapse on itself after it rusts away in a few years because the expected lifespan of a shipping container is 20 years before you cut a bunch of holes in it.
Oh yea I’m sure cutting a bunch of holes in it and then propping one end up and having it support itself plus the weight of all the building materials you added at an angle so it concentrates all of the force onto one short edge plus the unsupported span of the floor will drive that expectancy way up.
To put it plainly, shipping containers can get hot. Really hot. One study of wine shipments found that containers traveling between Australia and the US reached a maximum temperature of 122 degrees Fahrenheit (50 degrees Celsius) while at sea.[1]
Another study conducted by engineers at Xerox found that temperatures in shipping containers on land can drop as low as -21ºF (-29ºC) and reach as high as 135 degrees Fahrenheit (57ºC).[2] The researchers found that the greatest temperature fluctuations occur on land, though containers traveling by sea are still subject to intense heat.
Certainly they can get really hot in certain conditions. I do t think that is very relevant to the actual living conditions, but I have a small sample size. The ones I have seen have been pretty efficient.
Cars are an entirely different thing. They get hot in the sun because of greenhouse effect.
I’m saying picking two extremes is statistically relevant. If we had 100 container house temperatures we would throw out the extremes as outliers and look at the remain temperatures to gain useful information.
You have interpreted " we found these two extremes" to mean “all containers in all conditions”.
I could say “this means the average temperature is a cool 45.5°.”
I have spent time in containers. I was surprised by how comfortable they were. Most recently I was surprised that the container was cooler on the inside on a hot sunny day.
I could say “this means the average temperature is a cool 45.5°.”
I’m sure you could say that because saying incredibly stupid things doesn’t appear to be an issue for you at all.
And yes I am interpreting “if a container sits in the sun it gets up to 120 degrees” to mean that if you leave a container sitting in the sun it will get up to 120 degrees. What are you suggesy8ng would cause these containers to behave differently from the ones tested. That’s the whole thing about containers, they’re all built to the same spec. Supposedly that’s why you morons think they’d be a good option ao it’s pretty funny for you to turn around and now act like that’s some weird outlier.
If you can afford a shipping container you can afford a greater amount of building material for the same price, your complete lack of construction ability doesn’t make them a better option.
Standard shipping containers are either 20 or 40 by 8 exterior dimensions.
So if you have exactly zero modifications or internal walls, so zero hvac electrical or plumbing and one open space you have about 200sq ft if it’s on level ground which this isn’t.
Your right it’s actually higher than that as other people have cited. You literally responded to that comment describing the sun shining on them as “in certain conditions”
I’ve never seen a house built out of pallets collapse. It’s almost like anecdotal evidence isn’t worth a shit. The stated life expectancy from manufactures is 20 years if properly maintained and unmodified.
Thank you for being rhe best possible example of how this seems like a good idea if you’re a complete fucking moron with zero construction experience, knowledge or ability.
I call him a Luddite because he resists any redesign.
Prefabricated houses dont move very well. A container can be moved with a flatbed and a forklift. I think it is most likely that I will be living on leased property rather than something I own.
I would prefer to be on someplace that is considered unbuildable for most construction, like a steep hillside. A pole building would probably work but the time for construction is pretty long and expensive compared to setting a container.
I hope to live there part time and a shipping container is about as secure as you can get when it is closed up.
Contrary to what others have said here the ones I have been in are pretty comfortable in the heat (which came a s a surprise to me.) I don’t have any experience with them in the cold. I suspect this is due to a high thermal mass.
I trust these people more than the opinoins expressed in this community.
Ok you convinced me please go live in one of these death traps that would actually be great you dumb sack of shit. I’ll be praying for a heat wace.
Youve repeatedly admitted you have zero knowledge experience or skill and you’re still arguing with me about it. I do this shit for a living.
Do you really not understand the difference in internal and external dimensions and how it affects living space calculations?
Who am I kidding of course you don’t.
Seriously are you like an actual child who’s still in high school or something because that’s about the only way this much of a lack of practical knowledge would be excusable.
If your like 10 sorry I was so harsh, if not holy shit you’re the dumbest person I’ve crossed paths with in a while.
That’s because it’s a stupid conversation.
You know what else you cana build a house with.
Building materials.
And it won’t be an unventilated, 100 sf, 120 degree Faraday cage that will collapse on itself after it rusts away in a few years because the expected lifespan of a shipping container is 20 years before you cut a bunch of holes in it.
20 years with very large portion of it on the sea exposed to the elements and with minimal to no maintenance. That’s a very damn important detail
Oh yea I’m sure cutting a bunch of holes in it and then propping one end up and having it support itself plus the weight of all the building materials you added at an angle so it concentrates all of the force onto one short edge plus the unsupported span of the floor will drive that expectancy way up.
1,) No, I cannot.
shipping containers are not 100sqft.
they aren’t 120degrees.
I have never seen one collapse on itself.
Either you are ignorant or disingenuous.
https://epgna.com/how-hot-do-shipping-containers-get/
Certainly they can get really hot in certain conditions. I do t think that is very relevant to the actual living conditions, but I have a small sample size. The ones I have seen have been pretty efficient.
Oh you’re the guy who is like “certain conditions” like you’ve never in your life encountered a hot car in the summer
Cars are an entirely different thing. They get hot in the sun because of greenhouse effect.
I’m saying picking two extremes is statistically relevant. If we had 100 container house temperatures we would throw out the extremes as outliers and look at the remain temperatures to gain useful information.
something giant metal containers are famously immune from lmao
Yes. Steel is not transparent to visible light.
I guess every time I’ve had to help throw a freight truck it’s just been hellish inside after sunrise because of what space aliens
Do you know what the three methods of heat transfer are, person who just called me a luddite?
“Certain conditions” like “the sun being out”
You don’t think the fact the internal temperature fluctuates between 125 and -21 degrees is relevant to living conditions?
You have interpreted " we found these two extremes" to mean “all containers in all conditions”.
I could say “this means the average temperature is a cool 45.5°.”
I have spent time in containers. I was surprised by how comfortable they were. Most recently I was surprised that the container was cooler on the inside on a hot sunny day.
I’m sure you could say that because saying incredibly stupid things doesn’t appear to be an issue for you at all.
And yes I am interpreting “if a container sits in the sun it gets up to 120 degrees” to mean that if you leave a container sitting in the sun it will get up to 120 degrees. What are you suggesy8ng would cause these containers to behave differently from the ones tested. That’s the whole thing about containers, they’re all built to the same spec. Supposedly that’s why you morons think they’d be a good option ao it’s pretty funny for you to turn around and now act like that’s some weird outlier.
You really are a dolt huh
If you can afford a shipping container you can afford a greater amount of building material for the same price, your complete lack of construction ability doesn’t make them a better option.
Standard shipping containers are either 20 or 40 by 8 exterior dimensions. So if you have exactly zero modifications or internal walls, so zero hvac electrical or plumbing and one open space you have about 200sq ft if it’s on level ground which this isn’t.
Your right it’s actually higher than that as other people have cited. You literally responded to that comment describing the sun shining on them as “in certain conditions”
I’ve never seen a house built out of pallets collapse. It’s almost like anecdotal evidence isn’t worth a shit. The stated life expectancy from manufactures is 20 years if properly maintained and unmodified.
Thank you for being rhe best possible example of how this seems like a good idea if you’re a complete fucking moron with zero construction experience, knowledge or ability.
Build material is not a building. My lack of engineering and construction ability does make them a better option for me in some cases.
8x40 does not equal 100, nor does it equal 200. What does level ground have to do with anything? You are really bad at math.
You are just making things up.
They look pretty tough to me with tons of bridge girders on them. I cant imagine your house holding up to that.
I don’t know you but you sound like a Luddite and a complete fucking liar incapable of reasoned discourse.
Do you honestly think shipping containers are the future of housing?
Real
we got here this time
God I hope not. I don’t really see a future for housing at the moment.
I do think container homes have a place at the moment. There are reasons I would consider one in the future.
Why did you say he sounded like a luddite then? I’m honestly a little confused.
Why would you get one, instead of a prefabricated house or trailer? Every time I’ve looked at the idea a prefab or trailer would just be better.
I call him a Luddite because he resists any redesign.
Prefabricated houses dont move very well. A container can be moved with a flatbed and a forklift. I think it is most likely that I will be living on leased property rather than something I own.
I would prefer to be on someplace that is considered unbuildable for most construction, like a steep hillside. A pole building would probably work but the time for construction is pretty long and expensive compared to setting a container.
I hope to live there part time and a shipping container is about as secure as you can get when it is closed up.
Contrary to what others have said here the ones I have been in are pretty comfortable in the heat (which came a s a surprise to me.) I don’t have any experience with them in the cold. I suspect this is due to a high thermal mass.
I trust these people more than the opinoins expressed in this community.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Ok you convinced me please go live in one of these death traps that would actually be great you dumb sack of shit. I’ll be praying for a heat wace.
Youve repeatedly admitted you have zero knowledge experience or skill and you’re still arguing with me about it. I do this shit for a living.
Do you really not understand the difference in internal and external dimensions and how it affects living space calculations?
Who am I kidding of course you don’t.
Seriously are you like an actual child who’s still in high school or something because that’s about the only way this much of a lack of practical knowledge would be excusable.
If your like 10 sorry I was so harsh, if not holy shit you’re the dumbest person I’ve crossed paths with in a while.
Then go live in one
We’ll see.