I figured a close stereotype for men, would be that they should all be farmers. The thing is, there are under two million farmers in the US as of 2023. So statistically, an equivalent occupation/role should have a larger number.

    • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      7 months ago

      Yup, I have an essential tremor and fucking hate that one. I don’t mind strength based tasks… but if I try and screw in a light bulb I’ll probably crush it accidentally… don’t even get me started on appliances like blenders and shit - in the best case scenario I’ll brick the device… but I’ll probably injur myself.

      • NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        7 months ago

        I mean no offense at all, and feel free not to answer, but how do you type?

        Is it like a special keyboard, voice to text, or do I just completely misunderstand what you mean?

        • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          7 months ago

          At the moment it comes and goes with stress, as my dad aged it became more and more common but I can usually manage to type (with a lot of autocorrect help and backspace). It also varies with hand posture and that sort of clamping grip really makes me unsteady (for this reason scrubing potatoes is actually extremely difficult for me).

          It’s a neurological thing - almost certainly - so I only know what I’ve observed.

          • ikidd@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            7 months ago

            A friends son has this. It’s a little disconcerting to watch a 25 year old shaking like they have Parkinsons. He seems to rely on large muscle movements and catching things as they go by rather than steadying in on something.

    • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      18
      ·
      7 months ago

      Unpopular opinion: We should. Obviously as someone who builds and fixes things for living I’m a little biased but I do look down on men that lack any handyman skills (and so do many women). I think doing things like being able to change a tire on a car is about the bare minimum a man should know how to do. I’ll cut you some slack if you don’t own a car or a licence.

      • SanguinePar@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        Why a man though - why not just a person?

        What is it that means that men ought to be able to do those things, but not women?

        • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          All my best workers in shop and on site have been women, hands down. No egos; they listen and learn super-fast; they take great pride in acccomplishment and quality; they don’t tell me how their dad did it or that they’ve “just always done it this way”.

        • Spacehooks@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          7 months ago

          Cause in thier minds why is she not in the kitchen pertpually doing chores. Women aren’t people to them. Took so much effort just to give women the right to vote.

        • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          19
          ·
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          Because in general men are good with things and women are good with people. There’s a good reason the vast majority of construction workers, mechanics and engineers are men and it’s not (only) because women aren’t welcome on those fields.

          • SanguinePar@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            7 months ago

            I think that’s a massive over-generalisation to be honest. Women are just as capable at any of those things.

            I’m not sure why you would want to look down on people who don’t know how to do a thing, but at least do it equally.

            • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              10
              ·
              7 months ago

              Ofcourse it’s a generalization. I’m speaking of all men and women as groups. This isn’t about individuals.

              If you pick random 100 men and random 100 women from the population and give them the task of building/fixing something the men are going to perform better every single time.

          • exanime@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            7 months ago

            Because in general men are good with things and women are good with people.

            Dude, you’ve been thoroughly brainwashed

            There’s a good reason the vast majority of construction workers, mechanics and engineers are men and it’s not (only) because women aren’t welcome on those fields

            …and you double down

            • CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              edit-2
              7 months ago

              Check out the actual statistics on what women and men choose an occupations when both people-related and non-people-related jobs are otherwise equal. There’s quite a bit of evidence that men and women tend to prefer occupations in one or the other category.

              Honestly, looking at how different men and women are physically, it is slightly absurd to assume that they are identical psychologically (i.e. have the exact same preference regarding people-oriented vs. technical occupations).

            • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              7
              ·
              edit-2
              7 months ago

              No, you’ve been brainwashed.

              This is how productive your reply was. Are you going to elaborate or you here just to throw shit? Just telling someone they’re wrong isn’t exactly going to make them change their mind about it. Counter the argument - not the person saying it.

              • exanime@lemmy.today
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                7
                ·
                edit-2
                7 months ago

                I don’t care if you change your mind… You are likely too far gone to think anything but man=labour, women=feels

      • Graphy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        7 months ago

        Yeah I think men and women should all have some basic level of repair skills. I feel like somewhere along the line everyone got too afraid to break things or hurt themselves.

      • GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        7 months ago

        I’m a little biased but I do look down on men that lack any handyman skills

        That is a lot biased to the point that you can’t even see that other men’s lives may have put them in a position of not learning those things or even wanting to learn those things. It’s great that you know how to do those things but just because someone has a penis doesn’t mean they have to learn how to be handy. That doesn’t make them any less of a man, just different from you.