Yeah, exactly thats why Israel now exterminates the Hamas terrorists that clearly state that they want to commit a genocide, furthermore they are a elected government! Peace through terrorism is just as much of a idiotic take as a peaceful Islamic theocracy in Middle East.
They blew up many people in Israel, they burned people alive, they beheaded loads of people.
The resistance in Starwars, they don’t blow up civilians Festivals, they don’t behead civilians, they don’t burn them alive and they didn’t want to commit a genocide… Somehow all these things where done by the Empire… The bad guys…
Hamas was an elected government, in 2006. Elections haven’t been held since. I hope your mention of “elected government” was to say “an elected government shouldn’t behave like this” instead of how it struck me, which was “the electors of that government are more or less responsible for the government’s behavior today”.
The Nazis never got elected and people still say Germany absolutely deserved to be leveled, wich it did. And then you people come and say “Hamas wasn’t voted after 2006” yeah that’s because they are a terrorist organization that is exactly the same as the fascist Nazis just with another religion. They still run the government btw, they also release press statements of victim numbers, they do this.
Hamas was around before they canceled the first try at democracy there. They behaved exactly like they do now. There is no excuse for this.
Im not for leveling Palestinia, Israel doesn’t even have the technology to do this, they only have precision strike equipment, but im definitely for cutting out the cancer with all the necessary force.
Did you read the article yourself, the most he got in a democratic election was 33% wich isn’t at all excusable, still not voted into power by majority.
So now I have to somehow teach or show you that 33% can be majority?
“The Nazi Party lost 35 seats in the November 1932 election, but remained the Reichstag’s largest party, with 196 seats (33.1%). The Social Democrats (SPD) won 121 seats (20.4%) and the Communists (KPD) won 100 (16.9%).”
And maybe thats the problem, you do 20 second research while i did by going to Israel and seeing the shit with my own eyes and even before that helping the refugees from there in my country…
And that does nothing to disprove the fact that the Israeli government funded hamas. Pull your head out of Benjamin Netanyahu’s asshole and actually look into it. The info is all over the place. All you have to do is actually open your eyes and look at it. Going there has absolutely nothing to do with who funded who, but be careful and don’t break your arm while patting yourself on the back, bud.
Yeah that one dude that is very controversial and is EU foreign policy chief. He already proved before to be biased against Israel and has other at least interesting standpoints.
And just because many people tell a lie, doesn’t make the lie a truth, everyone claimed idf bombed a hospital, some idiots even believed some obviously made up death numbers. And what was the truth? Another terrorist group shot a diy missile that hit a parking lot near a hospital, 0 probable casualtys.
If you’re willing to kill an entire people (that is, genocide) then violence works. There are no native American raids into white settlements in the USA anymore.
Israel has the poor taste to want to use the same tactics that European empires used in the 16th to 20th centuries, but in the 20th and 21st centuries.
The Irish didn’t declare a theocratic war of genocide and the brits actually did shit. Oh and it came to an end when a ceasefire was agreed upon.
Force is the only thing that works for religious terrorism. Political terrorism is a completely different ting every time it happens, its way more complex.
If you think the northern Irish terrorism wasn’t religious I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Yes it came to an end when a ceasefire es agreed, exactly as I said. By getting around a table.
brits actually did
You say that like Israel didn’t.
As someone else pointed out, the kind of genocidal force that Israel is applying may actually work, in the same way it worked for the USA with their “Indian Question”. Though that ultimately was a prolonged military and economic attack from multiple fronts.
The question is are we still in a world that’ll sit by one nation systematically eradicates an entire people?
If you think the northern Irish terrorism wasn’t religious I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Yes i know you try to sell bridges, the terrorists where religious but didn’t want a religious ethnostate and also not a genocide.
Yes it came to an end when a ceasefire es agreed, exactly as I said. By getting around a table.
At political terrorism, wich is exactly what i said.
brits actually did
You say that like Israel didn’t.
In comparison not. They uphold ceasefires and don’t randomly target civilians…
As someone else pointed out, the kind of genocidal force that Israel is applying may actually work, in the same way it worked for the USA with their “Indian Question”. Though that ultimately was a prolonged military and economic attack from multiple fronts.
Calling genocide where there is provably non, thats what i would call terrorism propaganda and support. The only way to solve Hamas, is by removing them.
The question is are we still in a world that’ll sit by one nation systematically eradicates an entire people?
China is around doing this, Russia does the terrorists you support want to.
Israel doesn’t, there are tons of ethnic Palestinians living peacefully together with the other people in Israel.
China is around doing this, Russia does the terrorists you support want to.
True. The only difference I guess is west isn’t on such friendly terms with those countries. Whereas we’re actively aiding and a betting Israel’s genocide.
don’t randomly target civilians…
This is just a lie.
living peacefully together with the other people in Israel.
There’s also Israel occupying Palestinian land and actively turning a blind eye to their “settlers” committing violence and murdering Palestinians.
At political terrorism, wich is exactly what i said.
Proof for the claim that Israel is committing a genocide?
Proof for the claim that they randomly target civilians
There’s also Israel occupying Palestinian land and actively turning a blind eye to their “settlers” committing violence and murdering Palestinians.
That is true and i don’t support of this either. Doesn’t make it right to target a festival with absolutely peaceful people and claim Israel commits a genocide.
It was political terrorism. And they didn’t officially state that they want a genocide very different.
Doesn’t make it right to target a festival with absolutely peaceful people
I agree. However, Israel’s response has been to use it as an excuse to carry out some good old fashioned ethnic cleansing.
They’ve killed or injured over 100,000 people.
They’ve destroyed or damaged almost all of the schools.
They’ve cut off water and aid.
They’ve destroyed or damaged nearly half the hospitals.
Yes oh no they interrogated a hospital where they found gigantic tunnels below that where obviously used by terrorists. The hospital still stands and the hospital still works. Did you even read the article?
“The IDF directed us to a statement it released at the time, which said that “during the operation, an aircraft struck a terrorist squad that hurled explosives at the forces operating in the area”” doesn’t make it good or bring the civilians back, but given the fact that it was on accident and there is no proof of anything otherwise, its not making your claims better.
I’m beginning to agree that force is the only way to stop Israeli terrorism. The notion that Israel hasn’t “done anything” to the Palestinians to bring on October 7 is ridiculous.
You can also just disagree with Hamas and condemn the individual warcrimes that happen in every war and aren’t systematically committed by the IDF… No other fucking army keeps humanitarian corridors for several weeks, no other army warns several times before bunker busting buildings to destroy the tunnels below. No other army wouldn’t have leveled gaza by now given the history. Israel has no obligation to make ceasefire proposals to people that prove to be not upholding them at all and furthermore took hostages, where it is unclear if they are even still alive.
The IDF sets up humanitarian corridors as a PR move, then spoils it by bombing them. Humanitarian corridors are not exclusive to the IDF, as with every other example you started with “no other army”. You also are completely failing to distinguish between Hamas and Palestinians.
Yeah, exactly thats why Israel now exterminates the Hamas terrorists that clearly state that they want to commit a genocide, furthermore they are a elected government! Peace through terrorism is just as much of a idiotic take as a peaceful Islamic theocracy in Middle East.
They blew up many people in Israel, they burned people alive, they beheaded loads of people.
The resistance in Starwars, they don’t blow up civilians Festivals, they don’t behead civilians, they don’t burn them alive and they didn’t want to commit a genocide… Somehow all these things where done by the Empire… The bad guys…
Nice try.
Nice Terrorism support.
Palestine will be free. Run along.
Free from Hamas. Yes.
And free from genocide loving Israel.
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Please, and i say this with the best of intentions, stop being a dumbass.
What exactly am i a idiot about?
I live in the Los Angeles area and I’m posting on a public forum. If you’re that upset, maybe it’s time for you to log off for a bit and go outside.
Edit: the removed comment mentioned having me arrested for being against Israel on a German instance.
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Hamas was an elected government, in 2006. Elections haven’t been held since. I hope your mention of “elected government” was to say “an elected government shouldn’t behave like this” instead of how it struck me, which was “the electors of that government are more or less responsible for the government’s behavior today”.
The Nazis never got elected and people still say Germany absolutely deserved to be leveled, wich it did. And then you people come and say “Hamas wasn’t voted after 2006” yeah that’s because they are a terrorist organization that is exactly the same as the fascist Nazis just with another religion. They still run the government btw, they also release press statements of victim numbers, they do this.
Hamas was around before they canceled the first try at democracy there. They behaved exactly like they do now. There is no excuse for this.
Im not for leveling Palestinia, Israel doesn’t even have the technology to do this, they only have precision strike equipment, but im definitely for cutting out the cancer with all the necessary force.
Ummm, Hitler was voted into power
Assassination attempts on Hitler: 42 Assassination attempts on Hamas officials: 0
Totally the same thing 🤔
Did you read the article yourself, the most he got in a democratic election was 33% wich isn’t at all excusable, still not voted into power by majority.
He was elected. What you consider “excusable” is irrelevant.
33% wins elections and is quite excusable when there’s more than two parties.
So now I have to somehow teach or show you that 33% can be majority?
“The Nazi Party lost 35 seats in the November 1932 election, but remained the Reichstag’s largest party, with 196 seats (33.1%). The Social Democrats (SPD) won 121 seats (20.4%) and the Communists (KPD) won 100 (16.9%).”
Sit down and shut up troll.
So 33% of votes is 50%+1? Interesting how that’s a majority. And 50%+1 was necessary to rule and still is.
Stop drinking the red koolaid troll.
Wtf is koolaid?
JFC not everyone uses FPP
Hamas was financed by the government of Israel in an attempt to weaken the Palestinian Authority led by Fatah. So Israel can go fuck itself.
This is absolut BS
I mean, you’re right. Israel didn’t fund Hamas. They assisted in the delivery of funding from Qatar.
Wich was officially humanitarian aid…
I mean we’re talking about political bullshit so I’m not going to get into worrying about what it was ostensibly for.
Do maybe just the smallest amout of research or look on Google for 20 whole seconds and you will see how wrong you are.
And maybe thats the problem, you do 20 second research while i did by going to Israel and seeing the shit with my own eyes and even before that helping the refugees from there in my country…
Research a little better.
And that does nothing to disprove the fact that the Israeli government funded hamas. Pull your head out of Benjamin Netanyahu’s asshole and actually look into it. The info is all over the place. All you have to do is actually open your eyes and look at it. Going there has absolutely nothing to do with who funded who, but be careful and don’t break your arm while patting yourself on the back, bud.
I don’t need to disprove your claim, you need to prove your claim.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eus-borrell-says-israel-financed-creation-gaza-rulers-hamas-2024-01-19/
Yeah one dude said. Great source… Totally the Hamas didn’t get financed and armed by Iran and Russia. Maybe stop spitting BS.
Yeah, but that one dude is the UN foreign policy chief, and he is far from the only one. Nobody is claiming Hamas isn’t supported by Iran and Russia.
Yeah that one dude that is very controversial and is EU foreign policy chief. He already proved before to be biased against Israel and has other at least interesting standpoints.
And just because many people tell a lie, doesn’t make the lie a truth, everyone claimed idf bombed a hospital, some idiots even believed some obviously made up death numbers. And what was the truth? Another terrorist group shot a diy missile that hit a parking lot near a hospital, 0 probable casualtys.
Yeah and the Brits did nothing to provoke the Irish into a quarter century bombing campaign.
Force doesn’t work for ending terrorism, only getting round the table will.
If you’re willing to kill an entire people (that is, genocide) then violence works. There are no native American raids into white settlements in the USA anymore.
Israel has the poor taste to want to use the same tactics that European empires used in the 16th to 20th centuries, but in the 20th and 21st centuries.
Ok, yeah that’s a good point.
The Irish didn’t declare a theocratic war of genocide and the brits actually did shit. Oh and it came to an end when a ceasefire was agreed upon.
Force is the only thing that works for religious terrorism. Political terrorism is a completely different ting every time it happens, its way more complex.
If you think the northern Irish terrorism wasn’t religious I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Yes it came to an end when a ceasefire es agreed, exactly as I said. By getting around a table.
You say that like Israel didn’t.
As someone else pointed out, the kind of genocidal force that Israel is applying may actually work, in the same way it worked for the USA with their “Indian Question”. Though that ultimately was a prolonged military and economic attack from multiple fronts.
The question is are we still in a world that’ll sit by one nation systematically eradicates an entire people?
Yes i know you try to sell bridges, the terrorists where religious but didn’t want a religious ethnostate and also not a genocide.
At political terrorism, wich is exactly what i said.
In comparison not. They uphold ceasefires and don’t randomly target civilians…
Calling genocide where there is provably non, thats what i would call terrorism propaganda and support. The only way to solve Hamas, is by removing them.
China is around doing this, Russia does the terrorists you support want to.
Israel doesn’t, there are tons of ethnic Palestinians living peacefully together with the other people in Israel.
True. The only difference I guess is west isn’t on such friendly terms with those countries. Whereas we’re actively aiding and a betting Israel’s genocide.
This is just a lie.
There’s also Israel occupying Palestinian land and actively turning a blind eye to their “settlers” committing violence and murdering Palestinians.
It was religious terrorism.
Proof for the claim that Israel is committing a genocide?
Proof for the claim that they randomly target civilians
That is true and i don’t support of this either. Doesn’t make it right to target a festival with absolutely peaceful people and claim Israel commits a genocide.
It was political terrorism. And they didn’t officially state that they want a genocide very different.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67424064
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/07/middleeast/un-israel-global-list-children-intl-latam/index.html
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/israeloccupied-palestinian-territory-un-experts-deplore-attacks-civilians
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/damning-evidence-of-war-crimes-as-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68006126
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/12/israel-un-experts-condemn-record-year-israeli-violence-occupied-west-bank
I agree. However, Israel’s response has been to use it as an excuse to carry out some good old fashioned ethnic cleansing.
They’ve killed or injured over 100,000 people. They’ve destroyed or damaged almost all of the schools. They’ve cut off water and aid. They’ve destroyed or damaged nearly half the hospitals.
UN sources: https://www.wsj.com/articles/unrwa-hamas-and-the-genocide-smear-against-israel-case-linked-terrorist-orgs-d32f80b2
Not credible at all.
Yes oh no they interrogated a hospital where they found gigantic tunnels below that where obviously used by terrorists. The hospital still stands and the hospital still works. Did you even read the article?
UN doing UN things. Doesn’t make it reality or true.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Amnesty_International not a good source, not at all.
“The IDF directed us to a statement it released at the time, which said that “during the operation, an aircraft struck a terrorist squad that hurled explosives at the forces operating in the area”” doesn’t make it good or bring the civilians back, but given the fact that it was on accident and there is no proof of anything otherwise, its not making your claims better.
Un sources are not credible because un is a semi democratic platform for political discussion, not a journalistic institution, not a institution that speaks the truth and not a court, ICJ literally ruled they cannot find deliberate targeting of civilians and no signs of genocide and did not order a ceasefire in any way: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/26/world/middleeast/the-meaning-of-the-first-icj-ruling-in-the-genocide-case-against-israel.html
I’m beginning to agree that force is the only way to stop Israeli terrorism. The notion that Israel hasn’t “done anything” to the Palestinians to bring on October 7 is ridiculous.
Palestinians want peace, too. They’re not animals
You might want to look into that “election”.
You might want to look into the amount of support this organization has and that they act as the government as well.
Can’t believe we’re living in a timeline where some people unironically support or even related to Hamas.
You guys know you’re allowed to disagree with both IDF and Hamas, right?
You can disagree with terrorism. while also realising why it arises.
You can also just disagree with Hamas and condemn the individual warcrimes that happen in every war and aren’t systematically committed by the IDF… No other fucking army keeps humanitarian corridors for several weeks, no other army warns several times before bunker busting buildings to destroy the tunnels below. No other army wouldn’t have leveled gaza by now given the history. Israel has no obligation to make ceasefire proposals to people that prove to be not upholding them at all and furthermore took hostages, where it is unclear if they are even still alive.
The IDF sets up humanitarian corridors as a PR move, then spoils it by bombing them. Humanitarian corridors are not exclusive to the IDF, as with every other example you started with “no other army”. You also are completely failing to distinguish between Hamas and Palestinians.
Yeah definitely shure. Lets get your pills.
No other army wouldn’t have just levelled a nations cities because there are terrorists in them?