Just this week in Vantaa, Finland three 12-year-old girls piled onto one of those electric scooters you subscribe to with an app and proceeded to get run over by a car at a crossing, killing one of them
The app is supposed to have an age restriction but it’s easy to bypass and you’re not supposed to have more than one person riding on one, which people routinely ignore
I hate seeing kids and teens speeding around dangerously on those fucking things and then just leaving them laying around on high-traffic bike routes because they don’t give a shit since they treat the scooters as completely disposable
Fucking awful bazinga-brained Silicon Valley-ass idea and business model. Actually, there are also bikes you can use with an app but curiously you don’t see kids doing reckless shit with those, almost as if electric scooters were uniquely terrible 
honestly this is more carbrained than people who fetishize their giant stupid truck. so carbrained that the car, which was solely responsible for crushing the body of a child, is just not even in the picture. cars cease to exist as noticeable objects, they are simple facts, they are of the world itself.
If man were meant to scoot we’d be born with little wheels
Yes although to be fair to doublepepperoni, the other complaints mentioned are not contingent on this strange take.
A car is just the worst case scenario, but these things are routinely involved in other types of accidents as well
like what
People riding them drunk, falling and fucking themselves up.
You could say “don’t ride them drunk then”, but when there’s zero oversight that’s what’s going to happen.
This happens with bicycles pretty regularly too.
What oversight exists for bicycles?
Helmet laws; 200 years of largely safety-focused design refinements; significant safety regulations regarding things like brakes, lights, where they can be ridden…
None of these things apply to scooters, which is why the injury rate for scooters per distance travelled is roughly 115/million trips vs 15/million trips for bicycles.
Scooters come with brake lights, indicators… And as far as I know, in most countries the scooters and bicycles are in a similar or same category so the same helmet laws apply to both of them.
The problem is enforcement and education - bikes are usually owned, not rented, and people have been told for years why it’s important to wear a helmet. A bicycle is a large thing that you leave locked, and you can lock the helmet together with the bike. With scooters you’d have to take the helmet with you so it’s perceived as inconvenient, and we don’t have years of messaging saying “wear a helmet with your scooter”.
But to me enforcement is a big part of this. I live in a cycling city (mind you, a cycling city in the UK is still significantly more car-centric than central/northern Europe), and I have never heard of anyone getting fined for not wearing a helmet (neither on a scooter or bicycle). I routinely see people wearing dark clothes and no lights in their bike. If that’s in the regulations, then clearly the police have better things to do. If nobody gets a fine, and there’s no education drilling into people’s heads that the helmet is important, then people won’t bother.
The scooter company apps don’t let you rent them after midnight for exactly this reason.
what solution for scooter regulation is not worse than the problem? Scooter access and methystikovalian lifestyles are basic a human right. Do we abolish scooters? Fill the streets with cops?
How can this be a human right if it’s not even a word?
Are they prone to accidents on their own?
Where I am, they are a lot more stable than they feel while riding for the first time, they’re very bottom-heavy, and limited to 25 km/h.
Anyone capable of hurting themselves on a scooter could easily do the same on any kind of foot-powered transportation.
Small front wheel + standing position makes them very vulnerable to hitting tiny obstacles and sending the rider over the bars head first into something typically hard and unmovable.
Bicycles on the other hand have a much larger front wheel typically and can roll over obstacles that would take out a scooter operator.
I saw some guy take a tight turn on one at full speed and hit a speed bump. He flew like 10ft in the air and hit the pavement with an audible slap. I asked him he wanted me to call an ambulance but he refused and just limped off moaning.
seems like a user error to me
Yeah humans tend to do those a lot, hence why we implement safety measures to protect them from their own folly