• Dyskolos
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    5 months ago

    That might be true for the US, as they’re a shitty capitalist hellhole. Here we have nearly zero incidents, extremely low level of gun-usage and they’re not just capital-protectors. They’re helpers in all kind, even as a taxi if need be. E.g. Who’d you gonna call if your SO beats you or just won’t leave your house? Or anything else where someone stronger (or better armed) than you threatens you in some way? Popo is here in 5m tops. Remember that noone has guns here and we’re not at liberty to shoot intruders even if we had guns.

    While i don’t argue about inequality mostly being the reason for violence/whatever, the cops aren’t the enemy. As said in another comment, they’re just doing their shitty job. As kids we see them as heroes (not fear them like in the US), so many just become cops as a kids-dream, not even thinking about if that’s a good thing. I’d argue that a banking-employee or basically any other employee that works for a billionaire, are the real enemy and evil. Who cares about the lowest end in the chain aka coos? I don’t.

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      5 months ago

      If a majority of your population decided to overthrow your government, who would the police side with? That’s your answer.

      If the police would side with the average citizen, then your society is egalitarian. But, if your police would side with the government and billionaires, then it is authoritarian.

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        5 months ago

        Because… It’s their job? Protecting everyone from unlawful blahblah? Overthrowing a gov is kinda the epitome of “unlawful”. No wonders here. Also they’d probably do shit and the army rolls out in such a case, but…

        Especially the muricans hate cops so much but love their military. People being paid to murder other people “for protection”. Where are the AMAB instead of ACAB?

        Anyhow, and your take on your statement is, that cops are the evil then? Where’s the importance of the lowest of enemies that are literally in the same boat as the regular working joe that cries ACAB? Or is it just acceptance that one couldn’t change a thing but hating cops is graspable and tangible?

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            5 months ago

            I see you avoid answering things, so I don’t even watch this. But for the point of the argument again: Rising fascism in europe is connected to the fucking cops HOW?! Why the effing f should I care about the enforcers of a system that wants to fuck me raw and not the owners of this system? Serves my point somehow, doesn’t it?

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              5 months ago

              When fascism comes to Europe, and the fascists are elected to office, and they legislate laws that are contradictory to the public, who will enforce those fascist laws enacted by the state?

              The police.

              When the fascists make laws against protesting, against workers striking, how does the state enforce these laws?

              The police.

              Understand the police are an extension of the state (the government). As the state becomes more fascist, police are employed to enforce this fascism.

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                5 months ago

                So, you’re a troll, a bot or unable to comprehend my posts. Which is it?

                I do understand what police is and what they do. Did you copy/paste this from r/i_am_14_and_this_is_deep?

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                  5 months ago

                  I can’t comprehend your comments. I have demonstrated, with sources, the relationship between capitalism and policing, repeatedly. You refuse to acknowledge that relationship, responding with, “but police are friends.” Feelings aren’t an appropriate defense of the purpose and existence of an apparatus of the state, despite the friendly policeman down the street.

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                    5 months ago

                    Yeah sure whatever. Go hate the least important asset of an instrument that tramples you to death. If that makes you feel better.

                    Cops may be protecting my assets and my ass, but if it wouldn’t be them, it would be private force i would have to pay (at least cops are free lol). I am one of those who reap the soils of your labour (because i don’t work). You should fight me and those with way more dough. Not the badly paid cops. Actually why am I even arguing, i should be glad you hate them 😁