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Amazon (AMZN.O) is planning a major revamp of its decade-old money-losing Alexa service to include a conversational generative AI with two tiers of service and has considered a monthly fee of around $5 to access the superior version, according to people with direct knowledge of the company’s plans.

  • ripcord@lemmy.worldEnglish
    42·
    7 days ago

    I’d pay $20 or $30 a year, especially if it meant they’d actually, like, improve the service (which has been almost 100% the same for me for the last 4 years or so).

    But $60 to $120 would make me move elsewhere

    • GooseFinger@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      102·
      7 days ago

      If you have an Amazon Echo (or whatever they call it) in your home, then you already pay them by letting it spy on you, your family, and any guests that come over. Even if they improved the service (they won’t), why would you pay $20 or $30 a year for it?

      • ripcord@lemmy.worldEnglish
        54·
        5 days ago

        What info are they getting from me telling it to turn on the lights?

        The service it provides I would expect to either pay a reasonable marginal fee, or do everything locally.

        If the Home Assistant voice Appliance stuff can get its shit together and I can get one for reasonable prices I will move to that (or something like it) instead.

        • GooseFinger@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          51·
          7 days ago

          More than just “ripcord likes to have lights on at 6:00 pm,” surprisingly.

          It knows what brand lights you have, who’s interacting with it, who you might be with if anyone speaks in the background, what times and days you’re typically home… it’ll even infer your mood based on how your voice sounds.

          Unfortunately, Amazon isn’t required to disclose every bit of personal data they take from you, so only so much is known about it. If you consider though that data collection is a new, multi-billion dollar industry, and how effective hundreds of PhDs in data science and social-engineering can be with near infinite resources to develop tools to extract as much information from these devices as possible, it starts becoming more believable.

          Here’s a good paper I found: http://arxiv.org/pdf/2204.10920

        • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          7 days ago

          You could also argue Apple is heading in an interesting direction with on-device AI. Im ready to switch to Apple TV for fewer ads, as soon as they release a new version capable of on-device AI

        • ripcord@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          7 days ago

          I agree. I do keep considering it, but the additional value to me right now vs cost hasn’t been worth it.

          Same with moving from Roku to Apple TV.

          Also, not having much in the Apple ecosystem is a factor. Down to just one occasionally-used Mac (and other macs that just serve as servers in the homelab)

        • DudewitbowEnglish
          62·
          7 days ago

          it really depends on how much you trust amazon on what it records as alexa is an always on(in terms of microphone) device.

    • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.eeEnglish
      71·
      7 days ago

      “By the way, did you know…”

      I had around 10 echos and replaced them all with HomePods. Much better.

      • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        7 days ago

        Yeah, mighty tempting, especially since I wouldn’t need anywhere near that many. On the assumption the new improved Siri will need on device ai, I’ll go for it when they release that

      • ripcord@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        7 days ago

        I agree, although I haven’t heard that for a year.

        I have 10 rooms with voice assistants so I havent been motivated enough to suck it up and try to start replacing them with HomePods. I’m still hoping that a good, reasonably priced, fully local, HA-integrated solution (that I don’t have to build myself) shows up.

        • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          7 days ago

          HA is making good progress toward a home automation voice assistant, which is definitely cool, but I have read about where it works as a general voice assistant. Siri is a good general voice assistant and Apple is making good progress toward home automation, so I’d go in that direction too. As soon as a new HonePod comes out to support on-device AI, I’m in

          • ripcord@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            7 days ago

            Unfortunately they still seem like they have a long way to go.

            A huge part of the problem seems to be availability of good, reasknably-priced Appliance hardware. I’m looking for something that I don’t have to build, that is $100 or so, and that’s at least reasonably good (like, I’d accept the sound and microphone quality of the 1st gen echo mini which weren’t that great.

            But nothing like that seems to exist. Hopefully there’s something now and I’ve just missed it.