The ebike class 1/2/3 concept is stupid puritan nonsense driven by cyclist jealousy and serves only to limit the usefulness of ebikes as car replacements.

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    The distinctions between a bicycle and a(n electric, fuck those loud little gas motors) moped are a historical relic and should be blurred away to total unrecognizability.

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              I don’t think you should be able to drive a motorcycle without a license (which should require taking a course and exam). They hit 140+mph and cannot brake as quickly as cars. Without knowing how to ride and to follow rules of the road, they are a life-threatening danger to other people.

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              Big disagree on the “no licensing for motorcycles”. When I took my motorcycle class, it was very terrifying seeing other students barely able to operate the light learner bikes, like 200cc suzukis. During our breaks, the worst riders in class always said how they wanted a big ole Harley or similar cruiser but had almost no aptitude for balance or control of the learner bike.

              Everyone in the class passed and it equated to a DMV road test and I am genuinely afraid for them on the road.

              I think motorcycle education should be more extensive. I think part of what makes motorcycling so dangerous(aside from the obvious wrecking balls that cars are), is inexperienced riders just falling down completely on their own and ending up very injured.

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                  Drivers licenses function as a way to ensure the people making use of a vehicle know how to operate said vehicle. Drivers licenses help keep casualties and accidents low.
                  Driving a car - or really any vehicle in congested traffic - is a complex action with many factors one needs to be aware of. Same goes for being on a moped or a bike. Knowing how to navigate traffic, knowing how your own machine works, knowing the laws for navigation, knowing how to communicate with other trafficants, knowing what is expected of you and others. These things are much better learned in a classroom rather than over time.
                  The US has shitty drivers in part because it has such a lax drivers license.

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                    Casualties and “accidents” in cars aren’t low, and driver’s licenses don’t help. If we want everyone to know some important safety information, just add it to the public school curriculum. The existence of driver’s licenses is one of the smaller problems with cars existing, because in practice they mostly just serve as a way to force most people to carry photo ID with them everywhere and give cops one more thing to bother people about.