• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Biden broke all ties with North Korea after Trump. Reverting to the old demand to denuclearize before for any negotiations and imposing more sanctions.

    As we have learned from Ukraine. no sane country should ever give up their nukes because they become a prime target for invasion. If Ukraine still had nukes Russia would never have invaded.

    Biden has also imposed sanctions on NK which were undone by Trump

    Now I’m not a an NK fan but I’m not sure why people think pushing NK away would make them more friendly. Unlike the past where American sanctions spelled doom and America could bend any country to their will, China and Russia are now picking up the countries America pushes away.

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      4 months ago

      China and Russia are now picking up the countries America pushes away.

      Pretty sure North Korea has been allied with China and Russia for way longer than the US has been “pushing them away”.

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        Well yes because America had been pushing North Korea away.

        Trump tried to lay contact with NK. He might not have had pure motives for it. He usually doesn’t. But the action itself is not the problem.

        Biden hitting NK with the “new number who dis” right after becoming president certainly doesn’t make them trust us more. And thus they have been pushed further into the arms of Russia.

        The classic American imperialists refuse to accept that by sanctioning a country into oblivion they will now just join China and Russia’s side. They have alternative options.

        Most Americans don’t even know why North Korea is so hostile. We bombed them into oblivion during the Korean war.

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          Well yes because America had been pushing North Korea away.

          The classic American imperialists refuse to accept that by sanctioning a country into oblivion they will now just join China and Russia’s side.

          Most Americans don’t even know why North Korea is so hostile. We bombed them into oblivion during the Korean war.

          What the fuck is this revisionist history?

          North Korea invaded South Korea in 1950, after the South refused Northern rule. The UN stepped in (90% American forces) pushing the North Koreans nearly to China’s borders, at which point China entered the war, and resulting in the 38th parallel armistice border we have today.

          North Korea wasn’t pushed into China’s welcoming arms due to American anti-nuclear proliferation sanctions of the last twenty years, and “being bombed into oblivion” is often the result of picking on countries with bigger allies than you, just ask Germany and Japan.

          China has propped up the Kim dictatorship dynasty for the last 70 years, feeding their starving masses while the Kims focus the country’s resources on military spending, including nuclear development to substantiate their annual saber rattling. Allowing China to maintain a buffer state, that’s kept the West at bay since 1951.

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      4 months ago

      NK & SK were making historical progress towards reunification until Kim and Trump met. Look at the pics from the summit and the timeline of inter Korean relations and it’s clear as day. He’s the reason relations went downhill.