• southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    You know what pisses me off with this crap?

    The two party crap.

    Yeah, yeah, Republicans are an existential threat right now, but there’s a whole wide world left of the Democrat party. There’s other US parties (not viable, but that’s not their fault).

    But crap like this not only highlights how broken the electoral system is, but it helps perpetuate it.

    It just gets old

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      5 months ago

      Get rid of FPTP, and get genuine representation, then you’ll see some change, but since that isn’t what the rich guys want, it wont happen.

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        5 months ago

        Canada voted a guy in on the basis of electoral reform and nearly a decade later we have no changes there and political theatre mirroring the two party american way of “don’t vote for him, he’s way worse than me!”

        We need our politicians to be accountable for inaction, misrepresentation, excessive lobbying, and failure to provide campaign promises.

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        5 months ago

        Current parties (both of them) will never fully support ranked choice voting because both of them still like their odds in FPTP.

        • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          He is currently the most popular “other” party. If you want to move past the 2 party system for presidential elections, he is currently at the front of the queue.

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            5 months ago

            He isn’t a party. He’s a candidate running as an independent. And he’s a symptom of the two party, FPTP system being screwed up.

            I haven’t been keeping track of how he’s polling to debate him being “at the front of the queue”, because the two party FPTP system means he’s an also-ran as long as either party exists at all. And, also, there’s no way in hell any of the die hard democrats would throw their vote to him, nor would anyone that isn’t already going to among independents or swing voters.

            What would happen if the democrats field a pointless candidate is a loss that puts trump in office. You might get some fleeing to vote green party, but that aren’t guaranteed blue votes are just going to stay home.

            • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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              5 months ago

              He isn’t a party. He’s a candidate running as an independent.

              A party of one.

              And he’s a symptom of the two party, FPTP system being screwed up.

              Agreed, but my point is that if you widen the field then candidates/parties you don’t like are more likely to appear before you get to your preferred left wing options.