• fluxion@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Because those votes are mainly votes against Trump and even a trash can would probably pull in similar protest votes. All the more reason the idea of a better candidate that people are even slightly more enthusiastic over could push those numbers up

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          5 months ago

          True. However, national exposure is a large factor and even if there was someone vetted, they still will walk unintroduced on the national stage.

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        5 months ago

        There aren’t any democrats that poll better

        Factually untrue.

        This has Biden down 6 points. And Kamala only down 2.

        https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/cnn-poll-post-debate/index.html

        But your comparing Biden as “the candidate” with the DNC and millions of dollars of campaign against people that haven’t even said they’re willing to run…

        Obviously anyone else that becomes the candidate would see a significant boost to their numbers both short and long term.

        But others also are polling closer (better) than Biden…

        Several other Democrats have been mentioned as potential Biden replacements in recent days, and each trails Trump among registered voters, with their levels of support similar to Biden’s, including California Gov. Gavin Newsom (48% Trump to 43% Newsom), Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg (47% Trump to 43% Buttigieg), and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (47% Trump to 42% Whitmer).

        That’s 4 people polling better than Biden in the last couple days…

        Weird you haven’t seen it yet.

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      5 months ago

      You realize the Venn diagram of “Candidates the DNC financiers support” and “Candidates that would get more support than Joe Biden” doesn’t actually overlap, right?

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        5 months ago

        If campaign financing is the primary consideration then we deserve the shit storm that’s coming.

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          The press constantly talks about the so-called “money primary.” No Dem has ever objected to such phrasing.

          The money primary is the actual primary in our system of governance.

          We the plebs only get to pick one of the pre-selected billionaire champions.

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      5 months ago

      Yeah.

      The vast majority willing to vote for Biden, would vote “blue no matter who”.

      Which means logically, switching candidates is the smartest plan if all that matters is stopping trump.

      But a very small, very vocal group of Biden voters (and even Biden) seem to be lying about what’s most important. I still can’t believe Biden really said he wouldn’t care if he lost.

      If they can’t get Biden. A Republican is their second pick.

      They just won’t admit it.

      But it’s the only logical reason people would be insisting it has to be Biden. Just like Joe, they don’t care if trump wins.

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        Personally i think they’re just as scared as we are. They’re just too fucking old to have a realistic picture of the political landscape. Gen X is going to get us all killed.

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          Bruh, gen X isn’t in charge of shit…

          You know Biden and a lot of party leaders are still the generation ahead of Baby Boomers, right?

          The youngest boomers are 60, how many party leaders calling the shots are significantly under 60?

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            5 months ago

            The party leaders aren’t the ones preventing a move on Biden. Basic support for Biden is tantamount to no action at this point but they are generally taking a wait and see approach. Im mostly taking about the political influencers telling you not to believe your eyes and ears.