• joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    Goddamn dude, Bernie’s fall from grace is actually tragic if you think about it… remember when he used to mobilize a lot of young people, full of this beautiful positive energy? It was really touching, this hopeful feeling that maybe things could be okay after all.

    I mean, I obviously wasn’t there in the US, far from it, but he actually made me feel like I wanted to have a positive, hopeful figure like him that I could count on here in my country as well.

    Remember that video when he was giving a speech and a bird landed on his lectern? That’s the kind of thing that would be too over the top cute and inspiring if you saw it in a movie, but it fucking happened in real life. You could see how happy the crowd was, truly a moment that happens only once in a lifetime, and it all just slipped away.

    God, liberal democracy is such a fucking meat grinder.

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      It didn’t just slip away, it was taken, because the capitalist class is too desperate and short-sighted to save their position with another dose of social democracy like they did with FDR.

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        They weren’t short sighted; the capitalist class prefers fascism over even a slight hint of socialism.

        Fascism shifts the blame of economic issues onto minorities from the owner class, whereas even something as moderate as mild social democracy still critiques the owner class.

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          That actually is short sighted though. The empire is dying. Bernie and those kind of policies represented a way to gently wind down and create a soft landing for the decline.

          You’re exactly correct about why they rejected though! They refuse to allow any concessions, or admit that its over

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          Yeah but if their biggest fear is UN soldiers occupying the US and FEMA camps and all that, they should stay away from fash shit. Because that’s where fash shit ends

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      I was already pretty deep down the leftist pipeline, but I’d lie if I said Bernie didn’t influence me

      For a second I believed in electoralism and thought that there was a nonviolent option left

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        Bernie, along with Kyle Kulinski are who got me into socialism to begin with (or rather, started me down the line. Richard Wolff is actually who got me into post-capitalism idiology).

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        Pretty cringe to admit this but oh well: I started reading Marx specifically because I wanted to learn more about what socialism was, without hearing it from a biased source. I wanted to hear it from the man himself. And although I considered it for a time before Bernie, I think his unashamed self-description as a socialist pushed me to actually read.

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      I was a “Bernie killed Rosa” type in 2016, but around 2020 I do admit I did feel an inkling of something. It did feel like an energy was possibly coalescing, finally becoming something coherent out of the confused masses.

      But I’m still coasting on that. Try to think about just how rough it was to be a self-identified leftist in 2003. When there truly was nothing. All we had then was the band RATM and chat rooms full of 80 year old Trots.

  • NapoleonBlownApart [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    Tin foil hat time

    This is so when Biden crashes and burns, they can say that progressive Democrats are idiots who cost the election, and now they have a mandate to become more conservative.

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    4 months ago

    Boy, I sure can’t wait for all the usual liberal cucks to soyface about the next “Here’s how Trump can still get arrested” copium once he’s president again.

    “Prosecutor Dick Masterchud is definitely gonna arrest Trump soon!! Dick she wrote!!! Dicks out for Justice!!!”