• GrimChaos@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Yes, countries are providing weapons and aid to an illegally invaded country. No one is hiding this. Your point?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      11 months ago

      Westerners are the last people on Earth who get to talk about illegally invaded countries. And yes western fucktard politicians have been claiming that the west is not at war with Russia over and over. You dumb fucks are in fact trying to hide this with the same grace and eloquence a dog tries to hide having shat on the carpet.

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        11 months ago

        The U.S. is not at war with Russia, we are supporting Ukraine that is at war with Russia. Is North Korea at war with Ukraine because it’s supplying weapons to the Russians? I’m against invading any nation and I protested it many times (including the U.S.)… Can you say the same?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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          11 months ago

          The problem with your argument is that it ignores the reality that the west overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in a violent coup. This something that’s been extensively documented even in western media.

          The nationalist regime that west installed has been doing ethnic cleansing against the people of Donbas. Again, this is something, that’s well documented and has been reported on by western media. Here’s a clip from CNN you might want to watch https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296

          Unsurprisingly, people of Donbas did not wish to be part of an ethnostate that is trying to eradicate them. This is how the civil war in Ukraine started in 2014. In 2022, LPR and DPR republics declared independence and appealed to Russia for help. Incidentally, this is precisely what happened during the breakup of Yugoslavia when Kosovo appealed to NATO for help.

          We can also take a look at a few slides from this lecture that Mearsheimer gave back in 2015 to get a bit of background on the subject. Mearsheimer is certainly not pro Russian in any sense, and a proponent of US global hegemony. First, here’s the demographic breakdown of Ukraine:

          here’s how the election in 2004 went:

          this is the 2010 election:

          As we can clearly see from the voting patterns in both elections, the country is divided exactly across the current line of conflict. Furthermore, a survey conducted in 2015 further shows that there is a sharp division between people of eastern and western Ukraine on which economic bloc they would rather belong to:

          So, question of you is whether you support ethnic cleansing of the Russian speaking population in Donbas and feel that is should have been allowed to continue?

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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              11 months ago

              According to liberal world view, history is just a series of discrete and independent events that just happen randomly for no discernible reason.

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                11 months ago

                All we can do is wait for the experts™️to tell us about it. Sadly, there’s just no way a regular person could ever possibly understand these things on their own. It’s just too complicated.

        • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          11 months ago

          “Were not at war with Russia were just supplying weapons, intelligence, training, logistics support, equipment maintenance, and medical assistance to the country they’re at war with.”

          I wonder why they world doesn’t take Americans very seriously when it comes to geopolitics.

          Also keep in mind these ate the same people who have been frothing at the mouth to go after Russia for their act of war of checks notes posting racist Facebook memes in 2016 to convince our population to elect Trump.