The death of Haniyeh, a significant figure in Hamas’s political and diplomatic structure, has raised serious questions about the future of ongoing ceasefire negotiations. American officials had recently indicated that these talks, mediated by Qatar, the United States, and Egypt, were close to yielding a temporary ceasefire and a potential hostage release deal.

However, the assassination has cast doubt on the feasibility of these efforts moving forward.

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    • small44@lemmy.world
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      Why would you trust the country that give uncondtional support to israel and it’s allies to gouvern gaza. Gaza would become like the west bank where the settlers would rules

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          It is notoriously hard to find non-radicalized folks after repeatedly dropping bombs on their homes.

          If that was genuinely Isreal’s aim they would be limiting their intervention to targeted strikes or utilizing the Palestinian social apparatus to try and secure custody of the most extreme Hamas members… they’d also be rabidly going after any Isreali settlers threatening the peace process.

          Genuinely trying to build a better civilian government (which is something I’m absolutely supportive of) looks a lot different than what we’ve been seeing.

          IMO Netanyahu and most of his party don’t really care if Palestinians live or die - they just want to make Gaza so inhospitable that they all flee as refugees so that Isreal can freely claim the land. With some very notable exceptions I think the preference is that no Palestinians die so that it doesn’t look as bad on the international stage… though a few fucks literally want blood.

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          Israel realized that it’s better to control gaza from the outside with the blockade

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      “the West Bank is a tougher nut to crack”

      what do you mean by that? Hamas has little to no influence there, and it is governed by a civilian government that was democratically elected. In fact, they’ve been trying to hold new elections, something that Israel has been blocking for years now. There is little to no violence coming from the West Bank.

      Contrary to that, illegal settlements (both under Israeli and international law) are tacitly or overly supported by the Israeli government. What is needed is a full Israeli withdrawal back to the internally recognized borders and internationally supervised democratic elections. That is the only way a lasting peace can be build there.

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        what makes you think there’s little to no violence in the west bank? Are you basing that on media coverage of incidents, or on same comprehensive data source?

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          not saying there is no violence at all, but there were only about 40 Israeli fatalities in and around the West Bank in all of 2023, as opposed to close to 500 Palestinians killed in the same time span:

          https://www.ochaopt.org/sites/default/files/WB_info-graphic_15_Dec_2023.pdf

          That is despite the fact that Israeli Settlers are routinely and violently displacing Palestinian people in these territories and resentment against Israel is higher than it has been in a long time. Considering that only a few hours away, their perceived national brethren are involved in an active war against Israel, that number is staggeringly low, and would likely be even lower if Israel kept its illegal settlements in check.

          The overwhelming majority of violence in the West Bank is committed against Palestinians, not by them.

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      Yeah it’ll all blow over eventually once “Hamas” is gone.

      If you’re from the UK I’m guessing you’re under 30 right?

      Britain’s cycle of exterminating Irish nationalists every generation and being surprised when the next generation hates you too would be familiar otherwise.

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      Your account is about 8 hours old (from when I made this comment), so I kind of just assume you’re trying to troll or rage-bait.

      Any outcome where Hamas was permitted to live after October 7th or to govern Gaza was never going to be acceptable, and Hamas was unlikely to ever concede this.

      7th October happens when you steal land and displace 750 000 people, murder along the way, create a apartheid state and humiliate a entire race. Hamas is a creation out of Israel’s actions. Israel is the core reason as to why there’s so much hatred and death.

      Anything less than the end of Hamas would have been a terrible outcome for all sides. They’d regroup, rearm, and in a few years’ time they’d attack again, more civilians would die, and people would start clutching their pearls and warning about ‘escalation’. And in the meantime, the Palestinians in Gaza would have had to endure their brutal rule.

      So you’re fine with Israel literally murdering, stealing land and humiliating Palestinian people. Apparently. However when these people literally fight back, it is suddenly wrong in your eyes.

      Once Hamas has been sufficiently degraded, there’ll be some sort of regional coalition to rebuild Gaza with Saudi, Emirati and Kuwaiti involvement and US security guarantees, a deradicalisation process for the Palestinians there, and the construction of a civil bureaucracy. The international community will be pouring in financial assistance, except that this time it won’t be used to build hundreds of miles of terror dungeons.

      Not true. Israel will never allow it. Their PM proudly boosted that he’s proud of not allowing a Palestinian state.

      The West Bank is a tougher nut to crack. But Israel will have to deal with the Hezbollah Jihadis first.

      You’ve proven to be an immensely Israel supporter and Zionist. You purposefully overlook Israel’s hateful behavior.  A bit of history of your ‘‘precious’’ Israel:

      Israel became an actual state in 1948 by displacing 750 000 Palestinian people and murdering many (men, women and children). Laying sieges, bombarding villages and population centers, setting fires to homes, properties and goods. Planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled people from returning (source: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by ilan Pappé).

      Hamas did not exist until 1987, they became an actual group only in 1987 because of all the horrifying things Israel had done from 1948 up until 1987. Which is approximately 40 years after what Israel had done to the Palestinian people.

      You ought to learn about history and political matters before you even write or speak about these matters. You clearly have no knowledge about the state you are so hard trying to defend.

      Since you’re a Zionist, I will finish this comment with a list of sources of Israel’s action and then block you. I don’t want to read zionists stuff, I know you can still comment but that won’t be my problem.

      1. Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians in shadowy detention center.

      1. Death toll in Israeli attack on displaced Palestinians in Rafah rises to 45.

      2. Israeli forces’ systemic denial of fair trial rights to Palestinian child prisoners amounts to arbitrary detention.

      3. Israel prevents hundreds of worshippers from entering Al-Aqsa on first night of Ramadan.

      4. Israel’s PM Netanyahu ‘proud’ of preventing establishment of a Palestinian state.

      5. Far-right minister says nuking Gaza an option, PM suspends him from cabinet meetings.

      6. Israel Defense Minister Calls Palestinians ‘Human Animals’ Amid Israeli Aggression.

      7. Video shows Israeli settler trying to take over Palestinian house.

      8. Hamas official says group would lay down its arms if an independent Palestinian state is established

      This was added on Instagram yesterday, swipe to the left for the video with English subtitles;

      1. Israeli politician: Palestinian prisoners should be allowed to be raped

      part 1

      part 2

      EDIT: Corrected the links, added some more text.

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      You don’t think by perhaps, oh I don’t know commiting genocide and killing thousands of innocent people this will just infact coerce another generation of Hamas recruits ?