Most communities on other instances (especially lemmy.ml, but most other instances seem affected) seem still desperately empty and dead when viewed from here, despite vibrant activity as seen directly from there.

Are there still big issues getting new and/or post lost during the version desynchronisation?

  • 00Lemming@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    FYI, this is due to a confluence of issues.

    • We are the largest instance with the highest active user count - and by a good margin.
    • We are dealing with a premature software base that was not designed to handle this load. For example, the way the ActivityPub Federation queues are handled are not conducive to high volume requests. Failed messages stay in queue for 60 seconds before they retry once, and if that attempt fails it sits in queue for one hour before attempting to retry. These queued messages sit in memory the whole time. It’s not great, and there isn’t much we can currently do to change this, other than to manually defederate from ‘dead’ servers in order to drop the number of items stuck in queue that are never going to get a response. Not an elegant solution by any means, and one we will go back and address when future tools are in place, but we have seen significant improvement because of this.
    • We have attempted contacting Lemmy devs for some insight/assistance with this, but have not heard back yet, at this time. Much of this is in their hands.
    • We were able to confirm receipt of our federation messages (from lemmy.world) to other instance admins instances at lemm.ee and discuss.as200950.com. As such we do know that federation is working at least to some degree, but it is obviously still in need of some work. As mentioned above, we have reached out to the Lemmy devs, who are instance owners of Lemmy.ml, to collaborate. I cannot confirm if they are getting our federation at this time. Hopefully in coming Lemmy releases this becomes easier to analyze without needing direct server access to both instances servers.

    As you can see, we are trying to juggle several different parameters here to try and provide the best experience we can, with the tools we have at our disposal. You may consider raising an issue on their GitHub about this to try to get more visibility to them from affected users.

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        1 year ago

        I appreciate the concern, but we are doing this because we enjoy doing it and our skill sets allow us to contribute. These are exciting times, even with the issues we are working through :) No worries.

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    1 year ago

    The same thing has been happening with kbin. Anything crossed with a kbin instance is dramatically late. Like hours or more.

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    1 year ago

    Dunnow if it is related, but everything is just worse this the upgrade than it was before. Now everything takes forever to load, responses take longer, pictures don’t load the correct way. So for me this was a downgrade in my experience here or what the Germans call a “Verschlimmbesserung” (making it worse by trying to improve).

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      I bet it’s just the dramatic uptick in traffic. It takes quite a bit more money and effort to make a highly available and performant service, which most of these are side projects or paid for by a normal person’s income which can’t compete with a Corp.