“This whole saga makes me genuinely embarrassed to follow this stuff. I just want a sub that has an informed opinion on AI, this is worse than crypto bro bullshit.”

“Every hype-man who posts vague tweets and hype posts should be ridiculed. Every clown who posts screenshots of said tweets on this sub should be ridiculed.”

““AGI is coming out next year” - this sub for the last 4 years”

some self aware highlights.

  • Mardoniush [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    It’s incredible watching them slowly realise that they bet their hopes for utopia on a slightly more annoying customer service chatbot.

    As someone who once was a transhumanist (back when there were still Socialists in the community) I almost feel bad for them. Almost. A lot of them are young and haven’t yet realised that hope from tech alone is always, always hollow. What they do with that knowledge…well…I got better, but I was always communist.

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      OAI staggering releases to make GPT-4 look like it was faster than it actually was was a genius marketing move but they haven’t done anything interesting for near two years now.

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      Tbf, at least tech is real and observable so putting hope in science is better than putting it in fairytales forced on western civilization through extreme violence by the Roman Empire and other means of settler colonialism.

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        It’s still thought poison and being smug about your atheism isn’t really contributing anything to this conversation about credulous atheists buying into technology cults.

        at least tech is real and observable

        Except when it isn’t, such as billionaire grifter promises and fraudulent marketing hype gimmicks. my-hero

        settler colonialism

        Still in effect without religion, such as this:

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          Oof, touché. I consider myself more agnostic than atheist, but I suppose I was a little too harsh. I just get frustrated with religion when Christians tell me that climate change doesn’t matter because “the world has to end for Jesus to come back.” Allowing the world to end feels too much like a death cult. Otherwise, I have no problem with religious people who don’t try to force their religion into politics and on others.

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            I do wholeheartedly agree that religious bullshit was, is, and probably will continue to bring oppression, tyranny, war, and slaughter.

            My argument is that those things don’t just evaporate and leave behind a crisp scent of logic and euphoria once religion is no longer involved.

            And so much for the “none will know the time nor the day” part of Revelations whenever some bloodthirsty “American Civic Religion” yahoo supports Israel because of their own blood-soaked fantasies of nudging along the apocalypse to stick it to the (slurs).

            EDIT: Ever hear one of those street preachers when they babble about how “if everyone was Christian, there would be no more war?” I sure have. I feel the same way about bloodthirsty Sam Harris type Reddit New Atheists when they decree that if only everyone was atheist (after nuking the Middle East, as some like to suggest) there’d be no more war or other bad things.

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      As someone who once was a transhumanist (back when there were still Socialists in the community)

      Are you me?

      I used to actually go to those so-called futurology conferences back on the west coast. I stopped going when the military started setting up shop there and the spectacles got too creepy to bear. It went from “a future where everyone is better off is in measurable distance” to “imagine immortality and superpowers for the worst people in the world, also buy some internet funny money!”