Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

  • Amoeba_Girl@awful.systemsEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I think Zizek is a super nice guy, despite disagreeing with 90% of what he says. I still think heā€™s a great person with a nice soul.

    The sentences these people post, man.

    Anyway, itā€™s great that he chose a cryptofascist crank who tries to pass himself off as a communist to show how open minded he is. Damn, you respect Habsburg, Orban and Zizek, let me guess how you feel about Putin.

    • self@awful.systemsEnglish
      1Ā·
      2 months ago

      Anyway, itā€™s great that he chose a cryptofascist crank who tries to pass himself off as a communist

      oh thank fuck Iā€™m not the only one who knows about Zizek. thereā€™s still so many people whose first introduction to leftist thought was The Pervertā€™s Guide to Film on Netflix or whatever who never went back to check if Zizek was maybe a fucking asshole

      • froztbyte@awful.systemsEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Iā€™m still blissfully clueless as to who zizek is

        although saying that here now might cause an accidental crash course

        • YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systemsEnglish
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          2 months ago

          I mean, my awareness extends as far as ā€œpure sniff ideologyā€ and basically no context. Definitely heard some extremely bad takes on Ukraine though, which has quickly turned into my number one red flag for ā€œactually pretty okay with Nazis when you get down to itā€

          EDIT: special thanks to skillissuer below for the correction re: Ukraine takes. Please trust his actual sources over my half-remembered reddit nonsense.

          • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            1Ā·
            2 months ago

            wait wdym as extremely bad takes on ukraine, because some of these iā€™ve been able to find before going to darknet (second page of startpage search results) seem rather sane

            If we pressure Ukraine now, demanding peace, it will mean creating space for Russian expansion.

            https://www.instagram.com/slavojzizeks/p/C8g0yYRvLFL/

            The paradox of this combination is that what presents itself as a principled stance ā€“ peace at any price ā€“ is a mask for the worst ethnic egotism and ignorance of the otherā€™s suffering: are we aware that, although Ukraine has defended its independence, it has already lost up to a third of its population through emigration, kidnapping and death?

            It is not just with respect to the oligarchs and the cultural conservatives that Ukraine must go to war with itself.

            https://www.newstatesman.com/ideas/2023/08/ukraine-must-go-to-war-with-itself

            We now know what the call to allow Putin to ā€œsave his faceā€ means. It means accepting not a minor territorial compromise in Donbas but Putinā€™s imperial ambition.

            What is absolutely unacceptable for a true leftist today is not only to support Russia but also to make a more ā€œmodestā€ neutral claim that the left is divided between pacifists and supporters of Ukraine, and that one should treat this division as a minor fact which shouldnā€™t affect the leftā€™s global struggle against global capitalism.

            https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/21/pacificsm-is-the-wrong-response-to-the-war-in-ukraine

          • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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            2 months ago

            my bias against self-described hegelians is reinforced, bonus points for lacanism. every single one iā€™ve heard of in some detail (not that iā€™m looking for them) turns out to be a crank in some capacity. n=3