Not sure where you’re located, but without a “membership” for Tesla charging, the cost is about double any other company near me. It’s insane and a great reminder to only use these chargers in an emergency when you have a vehicle capable of charging at higher speeds. Tesla’s chargers derate all the damn time.
Bleh, I’m grateful for I lived long enough to see people comparing charging stations’ prices like they did with gazoline ones, casually, like it’s a normal thing now. One additional advantage here though is that no one can mix piss and water with your electricity input like it has been done with gas.
without a “membership” for Tesla charging, the cost is about double any other company
You cannot use these at all without a Tesla account. That’s how the billing works.
Tesla’s chargers derate all the damn time.
As someone who actually uses these chargers, that’s not even remotely true, and even if it were, they can deliver the maximum output for this vehicle (which it rarely ever hits) at about 20℅ or less of their maximum output.
A membership and an account are two different things. I have a Tesla account, and pay about $0.56/kWh at local SCs. If I dropped $7 or so per month on a membership, it would cost me about $0.36/kWh. I don’t because I don’t use them often enough. I have had them derate to 70kW but it was 115F in the middle of the desert, don’t know if it was my car or the charger that was dropping the speed, either way it seemed reasonable at that temperature.
So, you just flat out can’t read or what? Again, I mentioned vehicles that can charge at higher rates. So that’s three times I’ve said it, let’s see if you pick up on it yet.
I bet your lie about daily use still doesn’t equal the number of times I’ve used Tesla chargers. You probably didn’t think you were talking to a former Tesla owner. I wonder what you think those videos of people putting wet rags on NACS handles are talking about. Couldn’t be derating, certainly.
It looks like the ones in the median could be used if you nosed in? I know some people like backing in, but it doesn’t look illegal if they’re installed there and the lack of front plant also lends to this too.
Threw this together to explain the issue, not sure if all Tesla stations are like this. Here’s how the chargers are supposed to be used by Teslas:
I can use the charger to my left like this, but then I fuck over that spot while leaving an unused charger unreachable.
If I really squeeze close to the chargers, I can use the left one, but then I fuck up the spot on the other side unless it’s another car with the same charger location as me.
Driving the F150, or even the MachE, we just have to take two spots most of the time. It feels wrong but it’s what Tesla recommends for non teslas. I’ve only used SC a handful of times, but usually get lucky and grab an end cap or the side mounted charger when available.
Ie read that the cables don’t reach and you end up having to take up 2 spots normally. Not sure if it’s because you have to park one slot over or if you have two park half way between spots though.
Notes on my first charge at a Tesla station:
Holy shit these cables are short, I’m lucky that this stall with a more accessible charger opened up.
The first two chargers I tried didn’t work.
The Tesla app sucks, I had to restart it twice before it let me start charging.
I’m using the A2Z Typhoon Pro adapter, works great!
Not sure where you’re located, but without a “membership” for Tesla charging, the cost is about double any other company near me. It’s insane and a great reminder to only use these chargers in an emergency when you have a vehicle capable of charging at higher speeds. Tesla’s chargers derate all the damn time.
This location was $0.44/kwh, another one nearby was $0.62/kwh. The Electrify America station near me is usually $0.45/kwh.
Bleh, I’m grateful for I lived long enough to see people comparing charging stations’ prices like they did with gazoline ones, casually, like it’s a normal thing now. One additional advantage here though is that no one can mix piss and water with your electricity input like it has been done with gas.
You cannot use these at all without a Tesla account. That’s how the billing works.
As someone who actually uses these chargers, that’s not even remotely true, and even if it were, they can deliver the maximum output for this vehicle (which it rarely ever hits) at about 20℅ or less of their maximum output.
A membership and an account are two different things. I have a Tesla account, and pay about $0.56/kWh at local SCs. If I dropped $7 or so per month on a membership, it would cost me about $0.36/kWh. I don’t because I don’t use them often enough. I have had them derate to 70kW but it was 115F in the middle of the desert, don’t know if it was my car or the charger that was dropping the speed, either way it seemed reasonable at that temperature.
You absolutely can if you own a Ford or Rivian on Plug and Charge. I don’t have a membership, I’ve used the chargers. Confidently incorrect.
As someone that’s clearly used them longer than you, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
That’s why I mentioned vehicles that can charge at a high rate.
My guy, this is a Chevy
LOL absolutely not. I use them almost daily.
So, you just flat out can’t read or what? Again, I mentioned vehicles that can charge at higher rates. So that’s three times I’ve said it, let’s see if you pick up on it yet.
I bet your lie about daily use still doesn’t equal the number of times I’ve used Tesla chargers. You probably didn’t think you were talking to a former Tesla owner. I wonder what you think those videos of people putting wet rags on NACS handles are talking about. Couldn’t be derating, certainly.
So confidently wrong.
Nope, can’t read. I’m having this conversation via a neural implant 🤦
I don’t know why you’re doing that when OP obviously doesn’t have one of those vehicles…
Ah yes, when someone contradicts you, just accuse them of lying when you know absolutely nothing about them.
Stop lying.
You mean the ones Tesla came out and said it doesn’t do anything except create a safety risk?
So confidently wrong.
🤡
Wow you know you make a good point.
Why do you have to charge every day? How far do you drive?
Couple hundred miles on workdays
It looks like the ones in the median could be used if you nosed in? I know some people like backing in, but it doesn’t look illegal if they’re installed there and the lack of front plant also lends to this too.
Threw this together to explain the issue, not sure if all Tesla stations are like this. Here’s how the chargers are supposed to be used by Teslas:
I can use the charger to my left like this, but then I fuck over that spot while leaving an unused charger unreachable.
If I really squeeze close to the chargers, I can use the left one, but then I fuck up the spot on the other side unless it’s another car with the same charger location as me.
Driving the F150, or even the MachE, we just have to take two spots most of the time. It feels wrong but it’s what Tesla recommends for non teslas. I’ve only used SC a handful of times, but usually get lucky and grab an end cap or the side mounted charger when available.
👍 Nice diagrams.
“bolt ev.png” really tied it all together.
Ie read that the cables don’t reach and you end up having to take up 2 spots normally. Not sure if it’s because you have to park one slot over or if you have two park half way between spots though.
They’d never reach if you nosed in. They’re on the wrong side and the cable is too short.