Vice President Kamala Harris on Saturday accepted an invitation from CNN to debate former President Donald Trump on October 23, challenging her rival to another engagement on a public stage in the final weeks of the campaign.
I’ll just repeat someone else’s idea I saw elsewhere on Lemmy. She and Walz should challenge Trump and Vance to a marksmanship contest down at the gun range. He’d never go for it, but the image is hilarious. Admittedly, it would lose Harris some support from her base, but it would lose Trump a lot more from his to see him being shown up in such a visible way on one of his base’s favorite topics. Harris has stated that she is a gun owner, and you know she’s the type to take safety and skill training before she ever bought one, while on the other hand, if pansy-ass Trump has ever handled a live firearm in his life I will eat my hat. Both VP candidates have military training, but I’d still expect a pretty big skill gap between a decorated career infantry NCO and a newspaper staffer in a uniform.
I don’t like this idea so much. Tensions are high after two attempted assassinations of Trump and I don’t think our VP seen firing guns is going to help to quell any additional violence this election cycle. Also I am disgusted by many GOP members who share photos or political ads of them decked out with guns in front of a Christmas tree or shooting at shit and then turning to the camera to make their pitch to the voters.
That is a good point, and to be honest, I had completely forgotten about both assassination attempts. When I heard him bring it up during the debate that “he took a bullet to the head”, it just felt like every other crazy grandpa story. Especially since he also says stuff like “they’re eating the dogs and cats”.
Since there haven’t been any policy changes and no one even seems to WANT policy changes, it’s yet another in the long list of “thoughts and prayers”.
But agreed on the imagery of how political campaigns look with guns. It gets a bit too “Y’allquaeda”. I just want the campaigns to show him as the whiny baby he is.
I think most left leaning people don’t want no guns. We just want responsible gun ownership and issuance, at the bare minimum.
We recognize that guns, like hammers are tools. They have legitimate uses. The problem comes when people start seeing everything as a nail. Or they don’t properly secure them. Or they give them to people who lack the discipline to properly handle them.
Or, when people think that having the discipline and cognitive functionality to properly handle a tool that is easily capable of accidental or intentional death… shouldn’t matter.
I don’t own a gun. I don’t want a gun in my house or anywhere near me. I’ve had a history of depression and who knows when those thoughts will come back around. Or if my wife will have them. Or my kids. I don’t want an exit-button anywhere near me if that ever happens.
But if you want one? Cool for you. Keep it locked up when you aren’t using it.
Yeah, I don’t think it would lose her a lot, but some. Little enough that it would be a notable net gain in her favor. I was just acknowledging that it’s a non-zero amount. I’m voting for her, and it wouldn’t bother me any either, as you probably assumed from me suggesting it. I do have opinions on gun control (neither more nor less, just make it better tuned), but I barely consider it when voting because I have much stronger opinions on social safety nets, capital’s disproportionate influence, the health of the environment we live in, and so many other issues.
I’ll just repeat someone else’s idea I saw elsewhere on Lemmy. She and Walz should challenge Trump and Vance to a marksmanship contest down at the gun range. He’d never go for it, but the image is hilarious. Admittedly, it would lose Harris some support from her base, but it would lose Trump a lot more from his to see him being shown up in such a visible way on one of his base’s favorite topics. Harris has stated that she is a gun owner, and you know she’s the type to take safety and skill training before she ever bought one, while on the other hand, if pansy-ass Trump has ever handled a live firearm in his life I will eat my hat. Both VP candidates have military training, but I’d still expect a pretty big skill gap between a decorated career infantry NCO and a newspaper staffer in a uniform.
It could just be an ad. Show her at the gun range, hitting the mark. Show him going “bing bing bing” since that’s the sound he thinks guns make.
I don’t like this idea so much. Tensions are high after two attempted assassinations of Trump and I don’t think our VP seen firing guns is going to help to quell any additional violence this election cycle. Also I am disgusted by many GOP members who share photos or political ads of them decked out with guns in front of a Christmas tree or shooting at shit and then turning to the camera to make their pitch to the voters.
That is a good point, and to be honest, I had completely forgotten about both assassination attempts. When I heard him bring it up during the debate that “he took a bullet to the head”, it just felt like every other crazy grandpa story. Especially since he also says stuff like “they’re eating the dogs and cats”.
Since there haven’t been any policy changes and no one even seems to WANT policy changes, it’s yet another in the long list of “thoughts and prayers”.
But agreed on the imagery of how political campaigns look with guns. It gets a bit too “Y’allquaeda”. I just want the campaigns to show him as the whiny baby he is.
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I disagree with this.
I think most left leaning people don’t want no guns. We just want responsible gun ownership and issuance, at the bare minimum.
We recognize that guns, like hammers are tools. They have legitimate uses. The problem comes when people start seeing everything as a nail. Or they don’t properly secure them. Or they give them to people who lack the discipline to properly handle them.
Or, when people think that having the discipline and cognitive functionality to properly handle a tool that is easily capable of accidental or intentional death… shouldn’t matter.
I don’t own a gun. I don’t want a gun in my house or anywhere near me. I’ve had a history of depression and who knows when those thoughts will come back around. Or if my wife will have them. Or my kids. I don’t want an exit-button anywhere near me if that ever happens.
But if you want one? Cool for you. Keep it locked up when you aren’t using it.
Yeah, I don’t think it would lose her a lot, but some. Little enough that it would be a notable net gain in her favor. I was just acknowledging that it’s a non-zero amount. I’m voting for her, and it wouldn’t bother me any either, as you probably assumed from me suggesting it. I do have opinions on gun control (neither more nor less, just make it better tuned), but I barely consider it when voting because I have much stronger opinions on social safety nets, capital’s disproportionate influence, the health of the environment we live in, and so many other issues.
I’d settle for an old fashioned duel at 10 paces.