• crab@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    That will be believable if he doesn’t win. The fact that it’s cloee is absolutely nuts to an outsider.

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      2 months ago

      It’s only close because of our broken electoral process that gives land more influence than citizens. He didn’t even win the popular vote for his first term.

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        National polling has Kamala up by +6 at best. Seems like 44%+ of Americans those polled seem comfortable and supportive of Trump. The fact it is that close at a national level, with all Haitians eating cats rhetoric, still seems insane to an outsider.

        Edit: Updated to appease those saying 44%+ of those polled who say they support Trump is not an accurate reflection of Americans at-large. For reference, Trump won 46.1% of the popular vote in 2016 and 46.8% of the popular vote in 2020.

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          It’s not 44 percent of Americans. It’s 44 percent of the people poled. I can guarantee that number is skewed because a ton of left leaning people wouldn’t bother wasting their time not getting paid to answer some pole. I know my friends and I are in that boat.

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            It’s 44% of all those people polled who are registered voters.

            It seems insane to us “insiders” too.

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            Don’t pollsters account for this? There’s a reason why polling still exists and is talked about, the final results do reflect reality to some degree.

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            The point is, anything more than negligible is fucking nuts!

            Even if it’s 44% of just idiot luddite conservatives, that’s still 44% of idiot luddite conservatives too many!

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              Wait until you find out that 30-40% of Americans believe god magicked the universe into being as is less than 10k years ago and fossils are from noahs flood in which he saved 2 of every animal in a boat the size of texas.

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          Hilary was polling at roughly the same numbers as close as two weeks before that election he won back in 2016, if I remember correctly. It was looking like a clean sweep for her, and it was anything but. So don’t get comfortable yet.

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          Most polls are performed by calling landlines. The majority of people with landlines are elderly or own businesses.

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            There is no way the pollsters don’t know this and account for it

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        He’s got 47% of the popular vote last election. Over 74 million Americans voted for him. That’s 74 million too much.

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        They wouldn’t be swing states if everyone could/did vote. Look at the typical voting percentage, it’s very sad.

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        2 months ago

        Trump is a criminal, a fascist, a literal traitor twice over (Jan 6 + loyalty to Putin over America), and fucking senile. Anything less than 99% unfavorable is ridiculous!

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      It’s absolutely nuts to a lot of insiders here too. I can’t imagine a worse candidate, yet about 1/3 of the country seems to think that the choice in this election is a no-brainer, but in the exact opposite way that you would expect. The war on education led us here.

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      Our system has a vital flaw. The electoral college. It was a necessity at one point given the technology of the time it was adopted, but now it is a relic and needs to go away.