cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/post/590118

During a video address directed at the people of Lebanon, Netanyahu said: "You have an opportunity to save Lebanon before it falls into the abyss of a long war that will lead to destruction and suffering like we see in Gaza.

  • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    I’d say you are the one who’s reaching (of the hard kind) if you think I’m going to argue about whether the US response was well done

    I’m just here to point out that your statement that Biden didn’t use it as an example to warn the Israelis was utterly incorrect

    Also, I think it’s quite funny that you think they could have just sent in some specops squad to walk around Afghanistan with a picture of OBL and they’d have him by the end of the week or something

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      1 month ago

      Also, I think it’s quite funny that you think they could have just sent in some specops squad to walk around Afghanistan with a picture of OBL and they’d have him by the end of the week or something

      Firstly, you clearly misinterpreted my response, I was not against our aid in the Northern Alliance’s retaking of Afghanistan.

      Secondly, we had him pinned in caves near the border of Pakistan, we let him escape because that was the exact moment the ramp for Iraq was starting. That was my main disagreement, finish your first war before starting your second, or you lose both, like we did.

      Thirdly, if our president wasn’t a Texan and could, you know, reed gud, he would know the Pakistanis were screwing us for money, that’s literally their whole economy, we busted them on this back in the 80s, they basically started the Taliban because they wanted a “friendly” (read: hostile to India) neighbor they could use with deniability, much like China keeps Nork around even though they’re crazy idiots.

      The ISI could have handed him over in a week, and we know that because they not only pulled him out of Afghanistan, they put him up in a lovely Bungalow down the street from their military academy.

      Shame our president was such a complete idiot.

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        1 month ago

        I agree on most points, except perhaps that the ISI isn’t exactly as tightly run that you don’t have strong internal factions. What happens in Pashtun doesn’t necessarily jive with what happens in Islamabad.

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          1 month ago

          I agree, the ISI is somewhere between a rogue arm of Pakistan, and it’s shadow government.

          But messing around in Iraq was stupid, and trusting Pakistanis for anything, moreso.

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            1 month ago

            trusting Pakistanis for anything [was stupid], moreso

            Do you believe it’s something in their genes?

            • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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              1 month ago

              No, I just think it’s cultural, their history is exploiting others, the indians as mughals, who they sold to the British empire, then they lived off the US during the cold War.

              Why would they have to learn to do anything for themselves?