I think some leftist accelerationists believe that electing Trump will galvanize resistance the way it did 2017-2020. The ways that regular folks joined us, marched, and actually paid attention to things besides soccer practice was legit heartening and often helpful. I’m thinking about popular demonstrations against the migrant camps, organizing Covid relief and mutual aid, and generally saying “fuck this guy and his policies.”

But if Trump returns, none of that shit is going to happen.

  1. Those would-be allies might conclude that all that resistance was for nothing, and give up. Especially if he wins an outright majority.

  2. Trump is pretty open that he intends to use violence against his political opponents, and this time he likely won’t be constrained by any sort of deep state. Especially if he wins an outright majority.

That’s my thinking, but any accelerationists want to tell me where I’m wrong?

      • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        19 days ago

        After spending a decade trying to avoid prosecution by the American justice department for a crime they say he committed fully outside American jurisdiction, and having to admit to guilt. What a victory for free speech and speaking truth to power.

        • mulcahey@lemm.eeOPEnglish
          12·
          19 days ago

          You know Trump wanted to kill him, right?

          I enjoy writing and reading critiques of American power (including yours!) on fora like this one, and I think these spaces are valuable for education, radicalization, and organization. I consider this an example of freedom of speech. I also think we risk losing these freedoms under Trump. Do you disagree?

          • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            13·
            19 days ago

            Of course I disagree, I’ve just told you that I don’t think we really have those freedoms to begin with. Liberals just can’t get their brains past the binary of red vs blue. I’m not suggesting Trump is better, I’m suggesting there is no practical difference between the two parties. You know Hillary Clinton wanted to kill Assange too, right? https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/1842885/wikileaks-cites-report-saying-clinton-mulled-killing-assange-with-drones/

              • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                15·
                19 days ago

                Muslim electors at the DNC were physically assaulted by other DNC attendees, one got a concussion, because they were holding signs asking for a ceasefire. They were there to vote for Kamala Harris, but hoping to “push her left”. There were no consequences for the aggravated assault. Free to speak and get beaten by other Democrats is a real hell of a turd you’ve chosen to polish.

              • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                15·
                19 days ago

                You seem to still view Trump and his fascist policies as somehow unique, which is understandable for someone without much knowledge of US political history at home and abroad.

                The president isn’t the soul gem of the US government, the nature and circumstances of the machine means its going to keep being more fascist no matter who you slot in there. To engage with Trump as a unique threat is a waste of energy that only serves power.

                Also rights are made up, they’ll just fucking kill you the moment you become an inconvenience, like Boogie Smith. If you’re not organized, your rights are nothing but soothing hypothetical ideas about how things should be.

                • Chronicon [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  11·
                  19 days ago

                  Also rights are made up, they’ll just fucking kill you the moment you become an inconvenience, like Boogie Smith. If you’re not organized, your rights are nothing but soothing hypothetical ideas about how things should be.

                  So so much this.