Started learning Linux with Manjaro a few years ago, but there were always stability issues pushing me away from daily driving. I found when I did have time to use my PC, it was largely for gaming, and when any issue presented and needed to be fixed it was a bit of a barrier to entry.
Because of biases I always leaned to Arch for that ‘bleeding edge’ and rolling updates, so when I gave Linux another shot long term a few months ago I went with EndeavourOS. Everything was rock solid but I found a lot of nitpicks and after a week or so my monitors wouldn’t wake from sleep… I of course don’t blame the OS as more than likely there was a log somewhere explaining my issue, but I really just want to enjoy playing games after a long day.
So I gave up on my faux dream of living on the edge and instead installed Pop_OS!, and to my pleasant surprise it has been rock solid and performant to boot! My preconceived biases against Debian and it’s derivatives drove me to borderline tribalism. Flatpak has remedied worries of outdated packages, and even if I did have an issue (bluetooth headphones defaulting to HSP not AD2P) I found the solution on the archwiki!
The beauty of this ecosystem is that Linux is Linux, we all benefit from improvements so long as they are made open and free, and no matter what flavor you choose, you’ll always be part of the family.
Thanks for reading, and thank you to the contributors who work tirelessly to make an open and free desktop a reality :)
I found the solution on the archwiki!
Never used Arch before in my life, but the wiki is great. Rising tide lifts all boats and all that jazz
Bless the Arch wiki and everyone who has contributed to it
Gentoo wiki is good too
Welcome to the club, good to have you.
Cookies and coffee are in the break room.
Welcome to the club, we’re glad to have you.
I wish manjaro wasn’t so highly recommended to new users. It kept me from fully migrating due to stability issues that I thought were representative of Linux as a whole, but just aren’t.
I agree. Manjaro gives people a poor impression of Linux in general and Arch in particular.
Manjaro was the first distro for me where everything worked out of the box and everything was stable. I used it for 2 years and now I’m on nobara.
I tried mint but wifi didn’t work, I tried Endeavor but wifi didn’t work and it ran and looked like shit. Tried Ubuntu but I didn’t like the name. Tried arch but I couldn’t set it up.
Pretty much every thread has people saying to stay away from Manjaro.
I, personally, love it though. Best distro coming from Windows, imo.
I did really like the look and feel of manjaro, which is why I picked it after playing with like 7 different live environments… But eventually things just started breaking during updates and it got worse and worse until I gave it up. From reading around now after the fact it seems trying to be a hybrid between rolling release and LTS causes fucky versioning/updates that can cause a lot of problems for some people. :/ it scared me off Linux entirely for about 3 years.
Probably, knowing more about Linux in general, I could have got it back to 100% again, but it was too much work for my skill level at the time.
Yeah, the only ‘issues’ I have had aren’t specific to Manjaro, but they are specific to a rolling-release distro.
For example, normal updates will sometimes include major version changes of software. Programs like PostgreSQL need intervention in between major versions. This wouldn’t happen with a point-release distro like Ubuntu or Debian until I upgrade between major versions of those.
This same issue would be present on Arch Linux.
That said, most software does play nicely and requires no intervention at all between versions, major or minor.
Good on you. It’s about finding what works for you, not what other people think it’s cool.
I’ve been playing with Linux for nearly 30 years and never used Arch or Gentoo for daily work. It’s fun to try, you learn a lot by tinkering, breaking and fixing stuff. But what you really need every day is a solid boring stable distro to get things done.
Welcome 🙂. I always loved bleeding edge so Arch really suits me well. There’s probably a distro out there for everyone and you seemingly have found yours!
Good work picking PopOS, it’s the one I recommend to everyone too.
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Your rationale for going Pop was my exact one. I knew I wanted the bleeding edge, but this was a device I was going to (mostly) daily drive. I wanted it to be reliable. And Pop fixed that for me and didn’t force my hand with shoving Snaps down my throat.
Glad to have another join the ranks!
You know, I started with Pop! when I changed my gaming rig over a couple years ago. I always said I’d change over to something else, like Arch, which I use on other systems.
But Pop! has been surprisingly good. It’s a nice mix of stability and ability to swap out parts without issue. For example, I use the Liquorix kernel (similar goal to Arch’s Zen kernel) instead of the default Pop! kernel without any issue at all.
So I’ve just never changed it. I update of course but it’s the same original install it’s always been. Great experience.
If you’re gaming on Linux I can’t recommend Nobara enough. Optimized from the kernel out for gaming and based on Fedora. It autoinstalls graphics drivers on first boot, includes steam, lutris, proton, wine, and everything else you need to play out of the box. Also has Proton-Up, so you have a nice little easy GUI way to install the latest Proton versions. Developed by GloriousEggroll of GE-Proton fame.
For reference, I use a 3060 and play most games in 4K@144hz at medium-highest settings comfortably. I also run a second monitor which Nobara handles seemlessly, so good to go for Multi-Display setups too.
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I have been looking at Nobara. But I do wonder about impending issues with Fedora (on which it is based), and I also really like the custom version of Gnome that System76 worked out for Pop.
I use Proton-Up as well, and your performance sounds similar to mine.
What impending issues worry you?
Compared to almost all other distros, Arch is advanced in the way that it’s the simplest of them all. Nothing except the very basics are set up for you, so it’s tough to start with.
PopOS is the one that finally made me a Linux fulltimer too, after 15ish years. Welcome!
I’ve been on PopOS for about 2 years now. I did have to dual boot windows about 6 months ago because the Sunshine streaming server refused to work consistently on linux, and I lacked the experience to properly diagnose why the issue was happening.
one of us! one of us!
I multibox so the overhead of a compatibility layer and the sheer power required to run windowed (for some fucking reason) to keep full screens from minimizing on focus loss has forced me to run windows again. Being able to tab out but not being able to tab back into something that launched from a game launcher is an extra special fuck you.
For me linux is way to much of a hassle right now. I’m looking to offload my arr stack onto my nas or jellyfin box because while I’m gaming, which is most of the time, I’m not sailing.
I don’t see myself uninstalling Pop but it hardly feels like a daily driver anymore.
I’ve been experimenting with Raspbian and RPi compatible distros. Now I needed a PC for some self hosting stuff. I tried Debian and arch with not much success. Tonight I installed Mint then PhotoPrism without a terminal error that I need to google for solution! Even the video card is detected. Everything worked and now it’s chugging away doing all the work instead of me troubleshooting.
