If most everyone is opposed to genocide then I agree with them and want to help them find parties and candidates that oppose it too, like psl!
What party in opposition to genocide do you support?
I’m not going to stop politely and courteously advocating for the party and candidate I think is appropriate in threads where it’s on topic in a political comm.
It might not be a good idea to accuse people of bad faith when you open up with a sarcastic insult. World is pretty strict about that stuff, it’s like their number one rule.
I was trying to garner support for the psl here months before the election too, and years before it in real life organizing.
Just for the sake of completeness, if you can’t see a persons position as having a good faith form, doesn’t that mean you’re the person here in bad faith? If you truly believed there was no earnest true believer doctrinaire communist that was committed to their party of choice because they really thought it was the best use of their and everyone else’s time, wouldn’t you just report me as misinformation or whatever and move on?
I’ve always considered bad faith to be not the person I disagree with but the person who isnt willing to engage with anything I’m saying, to assume that there’s a human being on the other side of the capacitive predictive text thumb pad and that they have reasons behind what they’re saying that are worth listening to.
If you support the PSL and are pushing people to waste their votes weeks before an election?
In my opinion? Both of you are.
De la Cruz should have stopped running months ago when it was determined to be mathematically impossible for her to win. That she continues to pull votes from the one person that CAN win is all anyone needs to know about the nature of her purpose.
As I’ve said before many times, votes cast are not wasted. They are counted and have an effect even if the candidate loses.
Does the fact that the mathematical impossibility you referenced has been disproven change your assessment that de la Cruz should have dropped out? It would change mine…
Does it seem odd to you that instead of engaging with (or possibly even reading) anything I’ve said, you claim that all a person needs to know is that I and the psl take votes away from your preferred candidate (which is a statement I dispute)?
Do you think there is any place in our electoral system for third parties and their voters or should they all just abstain for fear of undermining the election?
With the way our system is set up, a third party will never win. Especially when 50% of America is still backing Trump. We need a new voting system before anything can change
If most everyone is opposed to genocide then I agree with them and want to help them find parties and candidates that oppose it too, like psl!
What party in opposition to genocide do you support?
I’m not going to stop politely and courteously advocating for the party and candidate I think is appropriate in threads where it’s on topic in a political comm.
It might not be a good idea to accuse people of bad faith when you open up with a sarcastic insult. World is pretty strict about that stuff, it’s like their number one rule.
I accused you of bad faith because that’s what I think you are. And I think the PSL is hot garbage and that’s why no one is taking them seriously.
Is there an argument I could make from my position that wouldn’t read as bad faith to you?
You’re here trying to garner support for the hopeless psl within weeks of an election, so….
No.
I was trying to garner support for the psl here months before the election too, and years before it in real life organizing.
Just for the sake of completeness, if you can’t see a persons position as having a good faith form, doesn’t that mean you’re the person here in bad faith? If you truly believed there was no earnest true believer doctrinaire communist that was committed to their party of choice because they really thought it was the best use of their and everyone else’s time, wouldn’t you just report me as misinformation or whatever and move on?
I’ve always considered bad faith to be not the person I disagree with but the person who isnt willing to engage with anything I’m saying, to assume that there’s a human being on the other side of the capacitive predictive text thumb pad and that they have reasons behind what they’re saying that are worth listening to.
Not when they’re actively trying to undermine an election.
It’s not clear from your comment, who is actively trying to undermine an election, me or the party for socialism and liberation?
If you support the PSL and are pushing people to waste their votes weeks before an election?
In my opinion? Both of you are.
De la Cruz should have stopped running months ago when it was determined to be mathematically impossible for her to win. That she continues to pull votes from the one person that CAN win is all anyone needs to know about the nature of her purpose.
And yours.
As I’ve said before many times, votes cast are not wasted. They are counted and have an effect even if the candidate loses.
Does the fact that the mathematical impossibility you referenced has been disproven change your assessment that de la Cruz should have dropped out? It would change mine…
Does it seem odd to you that instead of engaging with (or possibly even reading) anything I’ve said, you claim that all a person needs to know is that I and the psl take votes away from your preferred candidate (which is a statement I dispute)?
Do you think there is any place in our electoral system for third parties and their voters or should they all just abstain for fear of undermining the election?
America is a two party system.
Someone should tell it there’s all these other parties then.
With the way our system is set up, a third party will never win. Especially when 50% of America is still backing Trump. We need a new voting system before anything can change
Even for a losing party, vote tallies are used to determine access to funding, events, media and help to raise public awareness.
We gotta start somewhere.
Or we could just vote third party and convince conservatives to vote third party as well?
Most adults are against throwing away votes on untested, unproven clowns.