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    • roux [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      17 days ago

      I read the kid’s version(please don’t judge me lol) and even that one had plenty of new wtf moments for me. I definitely have no qualms saying “fuck Columbus” at this point. There is a documentary series called Untold History of the United States that does corroborate a lot of the second half of the book but it’s a bit lib and anti-communist at times iirc. I might be wrong though. I watched it early on in my radicalizing.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        17 days ago

        One thing about Zinn though, he was succdem and anticommunist (though not of the fire and venom breathing variety apparently), his book is mostly honest about USA, but he completely omit the history of communist movements in US and his solution is just more socialdemocracy. He also omits most of the relations betweens US and communist countries (with exceptions of Vietnam and Cuba which he low-key praises). Polish translation by local succdem publishing house even had absolutely scumfucking foreword written by local succdem scumfuck which was 80% AES bashing and 20% “neither Washington nor Moscow” mantra.

        • roux [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          17 days ago

          Very good comment. I do still try to read some not-so-leftist stuff if it is praise-worthy enough for it’s actual content but absolutely keep in mind the author’s intentions. I really wish there was something in the same vein that didn’t omit the work that communism did in the 20th century. I guess we still got Parenti for that but I’m not familiar with many more.