• Montagge
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    16 hours ago

    I think y’all just need to come to terms that America is further right than the Democrat party, and the Democratic party moving left is not going to help them.

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      16 hours ago

      the Democratic party moving left is not going to help them.

      How would we know that? They’ve never tried.

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        16 hours ago

        Because there’s no point flirting with the non-existent further left.

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        15 hours ago

        What leftist votes and in what numbers?

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          15 hours ago

          I mean look up Obama’s presidential campaign. He flipped red states and won blue states by running on a progressive anti status quo platform, and in doing so wiped the floor with the Republican candidate.

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            13 hours ago

            Why would I look it up when I lived through it already. He ran a fairly standard Democratic campaign.

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              9 hours ago

              Huh??? Okay you gotta be shitting me. I’m not American so while I know that’s impossible but I can’t really refute their personal experience so can an American around here do it?

              I’ll just quote this:

              Many pundits have considered Obama’s 2008 campaign to be one of the greatest political underdog stories in U.S. history.[9][10] The campaign is credited for shifting the status quo of the Democratic platform, especially on issues such as healthcare reform.