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    4 days ago

    I agree, and said so in 80, 84, 88, 2000, 2004, and 2016.

    “If only they had done-“ still ignores two key points:

    • Anyone can step up, so . . . where are these political masterminds the other 1400 days
    • running a political party, or any organization with thousands of people in it, is hard as shit
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      The DNC silences anyone that isn’t a neocon establishment pick. They don’t let the people have a voice and just listen to their donors. They need to have real open primaries where they do not obstruct the outcome. Once they can find their maverick like Republicans found theirs maybe they’ll start winning decisively again.

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        The DNC silences anyone that isn’t a neocon establishment pick. They don’t let the people have a voice and just listen to their donors.

        Name a single DNC meeting you’ve attended as an adult. Just one. Any one, any time. And no, college doesn’t count.

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          I think he’s referring to the time when the DNC legit fucked over Bernie Sanders. We all saw it, yet the D voters in the US sucked it up and voted for Biden, only to see the shit show known as election 2024.

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            If so, it’d have been better to put it how you did.

            But Bernie got screwed in 2016, 2020 was a whole different planet.

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              Wasn’t 2020 the year when all of the primary candidates but Biden just decided to drop out before super Tuesday in order to not split the vote against Bernie? In my opinion it was worse than 2016.

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                2 days ago

                in order to not split the vote against Bernie?

                ??? I have literally never heard that. What’s your source?

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                  I mean I lived through it. It’s also to be seen on the Wikipedia page. Initially Buttigieg was doing really well, but “for some reason” dropped out and endorsed Biden. Later on, just before the super Tuesday, also Warren and Bloomberg dropped out and endorsed Biden.

                  At that time it felt more dramatic (probably because media was very anti-Bernie), which is not visible in the statistics.

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                    I see.

                    Well, that wasn’t my experience, but I think we’d both have preferred Bernie, andboth think the DNC is weighted way too far on the center/center-right.