• spacecadet@lemm.ee
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    12 days ago

    I was watching a video the other day of Rachel Maddow talking about how now that Trump is elected, we will never have a vote again. We will be a Russian puppet state and that all immigrants regardless of status will be deported. I was thinking that’s a possibility and a scary potential future. Then I realized the video was from 2016… and Trump went on to be so ineffective that more immigrants came in than Obama. The only lasting legacy he will have is the Supreme Court, which sucks, but he is too ineffective to do anything other than rant on truth social. He is good at saying things, not doing things.

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      In his first term, he had a center-right Court that was willing to rule against him. Congress was also not solely controlled by Republicans, and there was a notable never-Trump coalition within their ranks.

      Now, the Court is balanced more heavily to the right, and they’ve already been willing to accept ridiculous proposals that help Trump. And he’ll be going into this next term with a Republican-controlled Senate and House. And most of the never-Trumpers have either left or been voted out.

      So I do understand that it’s possible that our fears are overblown, but there are good reasons to believe that he’ll do more lasting damage in his second term.

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        To be clear, the Republicans being organized means the Republicans will be able to do more lasting damage. Trump is just the face, and while he is a terrible person who causes damage through chaos, the malicious Republicans as a whole are responsible for whatever damage happens during his turn.

        That is important to keep in mind, because even if they cart him off to jail on day 2 of his term they will continue to do all the damage they can.

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          It’s also worth remembering the republicans having a different face next time doesn’t mean they’ll be different next time.

          People act like things are only bad because of Trump and that if it was someone else it would be less bad. There’s no actual reason to assume that.

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      Things are very different this time around. They have a lot more power and are a lot more prepared. Trump isn’t capable, the gang around him definitely is.

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        The first time he was trying, poorly, to have talking points.

        This time he would just straight up stand there and sway for 30 minutes and say the most stupid shit he could think of and still got elected.

        The more Ive thought about it, it was just warming the liberals up to accepting that it’s over.

        So now the next steps are to consolidate power, declare himself president for life, and then invade Mexico or some shit.

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      And you think you’re the only one so wise as to have noticed all that? Trump’s people have been working their ass off for this day. They’ve seen the weaknesses in Trump and the system and they’re already deploying their plans. If you think this administration will be Trump 2.0, you got another thing coming.

      I imagine Germans were laughing at Hitler after the Beer Hall Putsch.

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        They weren’t laughing, they were naively relieved and thought they dodged a bullet and threw him in jail.

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      The world was caught by surprise in 2016. A lot of evildoers didn’t even realize what was possible.

      They have since realized, planned, and prepared.