No illnesses traced to batch as health officials warn consumers to avoid purchase
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20241125145922/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/25/california-raw-milk-bird-flu
In Colorado, the big agricultural/ranching areas are the most reactionary. One cattle town, Greeley, even attempted to secede from the state over the barest COVID restrictions. Raw milk is a big culture war thing for them and the hippies who flocked to the most densely populated areas of the state. Luckily we live in the 21st century though and it’s illegal for a commercial dairy to sell unpasteurised milk.
So anyways the dairies are owned by reactionaries who love selling raw milk to other reactionaries. Since it’s legal to drink the raw milk of your family cow, the dairies circumvent food safety laws by selling a “share” of a “cow”. That entitles you to X amount of raw milk per week. The cow is one of hundreds in an industrial dairy being fed chicken shit. The first human case from this current epidemic was a prisoner being used as slave labour to bury all the chickens at an infected farm.
It’s so much filthier than any of the racist shit hogs said about Chinese wet markets. This is a wholly manmade horror perfectly within our comprehension purely being driven for profit. I hope it ends with crucifixions.
In Colorado, the big agricultural/ranching areas are the most reactionary.
is there anywhere in the western world where this isn’t the case
love 2 separate town and country with no consequences
what?
Overextraction of raw materials from rural communities drives the overdevelopment of cities at the cost of underdeveloping those rural communities, further alienating them and driving them to reactionary politics. It’s a self-fulfilling prophesy.
Overextraction of raw materials from rural communities drives the overdevelopment of cities
Genuinely asking, what does this mean?
It’s similar to colonialism: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01c.htm
One of Marx’s first big ecological ideas was observing how sheep were transforming England. The growth of textile mills in cities meant that the cities became the economic, social, and cultural hubs. That’s the primary tax base and population centre so that’s where the money from the factories goes and where an individual has opportunities/infrastructure. Meanwhile to feed those mills and their growth you need a larger source of raw materials. That’s cotton from slave plantations and wool from English shepherds. The countryside was transformed as small farmers were displaced and nature was degraded to make more room for sheep, just as the American south became dominated by large slave plantations. The wool sells for a lower price than the shirt so they have less direct revenue coming in, the lower population density and alienation from opportunity/infrastructure both negatively impact its tax benefits, and to top it off they’re poisoned by the work of extraction and the pollution of the cities they build. Cities and markets have to grow to compete with each other, and that growth sucks the life out of rural and natural systems.
So what’s to be done about this?
a reference to Marx and Engels’s assertion that the goal of communism is to eventually reconcile the division between town and country
The point I’m trying to make was that this isn’t a Colorado problem, due to systems involved
Let this be a warning to the current cabinet pick for health in the US!
Eh, who am I kidding.
If they support raw milk so much, I suggest we make them drink at exclusively. Let’s see how long they last…
ate the doodoo
Not just because of bird flu one should not drink this.
Why do people buy raw milk? Does it have material benefits over pasteurized milk?
Why do people buy raw milk?
They’re idiots. Some believe it’s because pasteurized milk had added chemicals, which isn’t correct, pasteurization is simply heat. But idiots will be idiots.
For others it’s the general anti-science/education bullshit going around now. The crossover with the anti-vax is nearly a circle it seems.
Can’t cure stupid unfortunately
“I’m going to buy the least healthy version of the least healthy kind of milk.” —Folks concerned about their health
I genuinely feel bad. It’s like they’re so close. Going out of your way to care about your health is good. Challenging broad societal assumptions is good. It’s just that this completely fell apart when they arrived at the “now weigh the sources critically” stage. The charlatans who sold them this idea for profit should be in prison.
Idiot conservatives (and many ‘crunchy’ people who don’t realize they are idiot conservatives) believe raw milk has more nutrients, that its better to be exposed to more harmful bacteria because that will build up your natural immunity, and can prevent you from developing asthma and allergies.
But none of that is true.
Raw milk has no more nutrients than pastuerized milk.
The ‘crowd exposure immunity’ approach just results in needless deaths and suffering, little to no functional natural immunity increase as bacteria variants evolve too fast, as well as providing more vectors for viruses in birds and cows to jump into humans and then mutate to spread from human to human, a potential pandemic.
And raw milk consumption has no effect on liklihood of developing, nor treating already existing asthma or allergies.
It’s got vibes. Pasteur was working for big pharma and he didn’t want people to vibe out so hard.
I remember reading a book that was illustrated kinda in the same style that “schoolhouse rock” was animated with, at least the “I’m just a bill, sitting here on capitol hill” song. Dunno about the rest of the series, never saw it.
In this book they were telling the story about Louis Pasteur and his rabies vaccine, they mentioned pasteurization, but didn’t go into how it worked. The book portrayed the vaccine in a ridiculously oversized syringe, and the vaccine inside was soldiers. Probably French legionaries, but I called them Blue Nutcrackers. That book made me understand at a kid level how vaccines work, and made me comfortable with getting them when I was 6. I wish I could remember what it was called, it really should be required reading.
Edit: Found it! It is called "The Value of Believing In Yourself, The story of Louis Pasteur.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A43eHlEaxPs
That video the lady reads it, but if you fast forward to ≈11:00 she shows the ridiculous syringe.
No clue why the book seems to be ≈ $85-$90 on eBay. Guess it’s out of print.
It can have some benefits, but in most cases the risks outweigh the benefits. You can read more on https://www.health.com/raw-milk-vs-pasteurized-milk-8656536 where they have studies linked to back up the claims.
For USA specially it’s more of a way to stick it to the government than searching for any benefits.
I’ve seen claims that it has more nutrients in it that are destroyed by pasteurization. There are also probiotics that would be destroyed by it. However, you can get these things elsewhere with less risk of contamination.
It’s a Good Thing Trump’s Administration takes this REALLY SERIOUSLY!
Biden is still the president
I feel so confident in the people he’s picking to lead the various departments, and in his entirely reasonable handling of the last pandemic - what could possibly go wrong?!
Don’t worry, JFK Jr. Will be on the case soon!