• Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz
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    4 days ago

    I’ve never followed Joe Rogan, so I’m a bit ignorant here. Didn’t he used to be really popular? What changed, did he become right wing or get really into conspiracies or something?

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      No integrity.

      Let any nut job on his show spew their easily falsifiable claims/conspiracies and then gave those nut jobs legitimacy by just sitting there and nodding at them as if agreeing with them.

      He sold out for money/views. Simple as that.

      He’s not very intelligent overall and he doesn’t care who his guests are and what harm the words of those guests do.

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      He’s always been popular, his show is the biggest around. But he’s a dumbass who routinely platforms assholes like Jordan Peterson and does zero due diligence.

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      He has in the past had some good conversations with interesting individuals, but he is probably the most credulous person on the face of the earth since Joseph bought the line about the virgin birth.

      He doesn’t just give no pushback, he believes whatever he is told as received wisdom. He’s the kind of guy that Ancient Aliens was targeted at. Unfortunately that has got him into the secret truths/fascist death spiral.

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        Conversation implies two people participating equally, I don’t think he ever had good conversations. He had some interesting guests on, but he was in no way an equal or even significant contributor to said appearances.

        Also I questioned the believe everything he’s told thing. I’ve seen clips of people explaining why he’s wrong on things and his Meathead not been able to grasp it and sticking with it. Even clips of his producer explaining why one of the things he says is completely wrong and made up, and he still believes it. My favorite clip of him is him screaming at a scientist who spinner entire career studying chimpanzees I think it was. He didn’t believe what she said. So I’m not so sure about the believes whatever he is told thing.

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      He still is incredibly popular, that’s why many people think his hosting Trump on his podcast helped swing the election.

      He’s always been libertarian right wing. But, since he became generationally rich, he’s now full on Republican.

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      The thing that made him popular was “he’s open to all ideas”. The issue with that stance is you end up leaning one way over another when the ideas come from people with absolute certainty vs ones that are self scrutinized. So, he ends up being a mouthpiece for the right as a result. He genuinely might be surprised to be accused of being a propagandist. His folly is that he is an idiot.

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      His comedy has always been edgy, and I think many comedians that are in this niche tend to be opposed to anything that tells them where the line is. When you go against “woke” you naturally gravitate towards being right-wing.

      Alongside this, many of his friends are the same, particularly his boss Dana White. Surround yourself with assholes and eventually you become one, I guess.

      Even pre-COVID, he was really into conspiracies, and his thoughts on TRT against most medical advice was pretty weird. He got away with it because he’s a fifty-something dude that runs a podcast. It’s fine when he’s broing out, but a danger when he’s spouting conspiracies that harm the average person.

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        I only know this guy as the Fear Factor guy and his podcast. I cannot imagine this guy ever being funny in any possible context. Make it stop.

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          I’ve watched one of his comedy shows. The best joke he had was a routine on how he couldn’t stop Brock Lesnar from raping him. Edgy, and that’s about it.

          It’s a similar story for many of his comedy friends also.

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          Nobody thinks Joe Rogan sounds smart. Dumb people just like him because he asks the same dumb questions they’d ask if they could talk to the same celebrities.

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        Its funny you say that shit about liberals when Rubepublicans are banning books. How’s your reality down there? Is the worldview narrowing?

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            A 2023 analysis by The Washington Post found that a majority of book challenges in over 100 school districts from the 2021–2022 school year were filed by just 11 people.[30] Based on a survey by PEN, about 10,000 books were banned from US schools by Republican-led censorship laws in the 2023/2024 academic year. This was nearly triple the amount of the previous academic year,[4] which had also seen a record level of bans.[31]

            I’d love to see your sources.

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              Oh I pulled it out of my arse while paving somebody’s patio, actually. Something about Huckleberry Finn? But I’m glad we agree nobody should be banning books.

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            That might be true if there was an actual unified left in the states. Theres not. So most leftist are unrepresented. You might also have a point if Democrats didn’t actually enact shit that helped the working class and allow you to be who you want, but they do so your point is moot. Theres only one party here who consists of close minded anti-intellectuals and though the dems are annoying with their donors its not them. Have fun with the federally mandated genders come January. Cause nothing says open minded freedom like forcing people to have binary genders.