• Norgur@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Shitposting aside: there is a valid point on there. Because we can’t see our opposites in any discussion on the internet, we cannot take clues into account we otherwise might have. This leads to far-reaching misinterpretations. Imagine someone with a very weird and overly simplistic political stance they defend with tooth and nail. Now imagine that person to be some activist with a cap with political slogans on it. Okay, and now imagine the person to be not that, but a 15-year-old who just started to grasp the world around them but thinks they have it all figured out (puberty doing puberty things). Your reaction to either of them would be VASTLY different, wouldn’t it. Imagine how many stupid internet fights would never have happened if it was known that one of the participants is a literal child that can’t have a clue what they are talking about yet.

    Yet, not knowing that we’ve been arguing with a child for the last hour and a half, we will leave the discussion with the impression that there are grown up people out there thinking childish bullshit. Don’t get me wrong, there are those people, but they are not as frequent as one might guess from the internet.

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      I love that perspective, so true. It even goes the other way, YOU could be a literal child posting such a thought-provoking comment, we’ll never know.

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      This is why I refuse to take relationship advice from the internet. I wonder how many adults have gotten divorced because a teenager on Reddit told them to

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        Every. Single. Post.

        “You need a divorce. This is gaslighting and abuse. He/She does not respect you as a woman/man.”

        I remember this one post where a guy asked his girlfriend if she would bite the bullet and help the women in his very conservative family cook Thanksgiving dinner once per year. He was super apologetic but explained that the women in the family got super pissed and offended by women not cooking. He had already tried talking to them and they weren’t having it. He was between a rock and a hard place. Clearly he didn’t know what to do.

        Reddit flipped their shit and said the guy had to choose between his girlfriend and his family. Obviously I am against traditional, conservative, gender-role bullshit. But I have dealt with plenty of shit to have a good relationship with my wife’s imperfect family. And she has dealt with tons of shit to put up with my imperfect family. A good relationship is two people who do things for the other person. It’s reciprocal and kind, even in unpleasant situations. This guy didn’t choose his family and he won’t change them. All they can do is choose to do it differently in their own house and raise their children differently.

        I hate the relationship subreddits. Hot garbage.

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          They should get a divorce. He obviously secretly believes in traditional gender roles being followed, and is trying to manipulate her into it with bullshit excuses. No other scenario is possible, no nuances are possible either. Everything is right or wrong.

          This is sarcasm, just in case anyone wasn’t sure :)

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          Personally, I loved them because they were entertaining. They were also useful, but not for getting advice. They were great for getting other perspectives and for thought experiments where you can think about how your would react.

          But the worst IMO were the ones that got upset when OP wasn’t just doing what they said like it was a choose your own adventure story. Some would get fucking indignant about it and it didn’t help that some subs had rules against arguing (like AITA, entertaining but horribly run with some strong but competing biases making judgements overall useless, including comments frequently making shit up that wasn’t in the post to base their judgements on). OP is the only one that understands the greater context of their issue, plus is the one that needs to be convinced, they should be encouraged to argue if they don’t agree, not discouraged.

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      Your reaction to either of them would be VASTLY different, wouldn’t it.

      It might be, but the benefit of the internet and sites like this are that it isn’t. A bad take is a bad take whether it comes fro ignorance or malice.

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        I definitely would be a worse person today if I hadn’t been put in my place by internet people as a kid.

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      tbh I don’t see it as a “child” thing, half-knowledge is blinding regardless of age

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        a literal child may not have the capacity to learn from the interaction, yet. maybe other people reading it will, though.

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          Yeah, but that means curiosity and acceptance of ignorance. It is a virtue many struggle to have today. (even me probs lol)