The shooting is being investigated as a possibly targeted hit, sources said.

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    For years now I’ve wondered why health insurance companies haven’t been the regular target of violence by clients who’s lives they’ve destroyed. They’re unique institutions because of how they regularly condemn people to death right to their faces for the most bullshit unjust kafkaesque reasons. I guess maybe a situation like that just sucks the life out of you too much to get motivated by revenge.

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      I think most people have too much to lose/too much on their shoulders.

      I have two kids and a spouse, if some bean counter at a health insurance company took one of them away I’d be beside myself with grief, but I’d also know that the other two needed me now more than ever. Can’t go to prison.

      I think people with basically only one strong bond might be more likely to snap, but even for them depression and survival instincts probably make it hard to end up with adventurism.

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          Are these being done by people with multiple strong family bonds or are they being done by incels with no partners or dependents.

          I also think that when it’s not just “regular” violence that got out of control it tends to be someone who got radicalized by some kind of violent white supremacist ideology. It’s not because someone actually being wronged so heavily that killing the people responsible felt like the move to them.

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      Honestly same. The healthcare industry has ruined countless people’s lives, it’s almost shocking something like this hasn’t happened before

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    Recently had a very personal and active role in someone’s journey of discovering they had cancer to eventually dying from it.

    Every step of the way I was left speechless and horrified at how little her “insurance” was willing to cover, at how we were denied what I consider to be even the most basic degree of care for someone going through the painful, boring, terrifying, demeaning descent towards the end of her life. How many dozens and dozens and dozens of times I had to console her daughter, frantic and crying in disbelief that not only was she losing her mother, but also that we were constantly having to question our ability to afford the care she was being given, never for a single moment being able to wrestle with the tragedy of cancer killing her mother without also having to stare down the constantly rising cost of merely a fraction of the care that she both needed and deserved.

    So uh yeah, fuck this guy and everyone like him. Fuck this whole system and everyone who benefits from the unfathomable scope of suffering it wreaks upon innumerable individuals and the people who love them.

    Rot in hell, loser.

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      Ah, sorry to hear that comrade. Hopefully one day only the good memories of her are what remain. Couldn’t agree more though - rot in hell, loser.

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      They are. I have been Never been in the same room as a ceo. Probably never even in the same zip code. If they lived around regular people they would for sure get got on occasion. I know about one vacation city where you have to fly in or out.

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      This is literally the justification for the absurd gun ownership in the country. This is what they’re for. This is the reason we should have the second amendment. This is the release valve for when shit gets out of hand like it does.

      People forget that peaceful protest only works because of the implicit threat of violence - “you should do what we’re asking because you couldn’t stop all of us if we decided to do something about it.”

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    So I’m not going to encourage adventurism please don’t do it. Dying on your own is not the way to build revolution.

    But also I have been increasingly surprised people who are fucked by shit that companies like this do don’t go do something about it. Guns are amazingly easy to get in the US and information is easy to find.

    This is going to end up being random or an organized crime hit rather than some dude who did something based, because nothing ever good happens, but I won’t be surprised at all when people who are increasingly kept down by assholes like this start taking matters into their own hands.

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      I have been expecting terminally ill suicide bombers or spree shooters to hit insurance company offices (or even hospitals) for a long time and it keeps not happening, what are all the guns even for

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      I’ll take the W but I was thinking the same thing too that this is probably an organized crime hit. Sad to say your average american is less likely to take matters into their own hands because they want to “work hard” and become the boss themselves doing the oppressing.

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        I’m going with just some guy whose family got denied coverage for cancer or something and they ended up dying. Not exactly politically motivated but ends in the same place so fine by me.

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        the detail that the shooter used a suppressed pistol supports this, harder to see an angry guy out for revenge taking the time and effort to use a suppressor because they’re thinking about escaping the scene and want to draw less attention. certainly possible though

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          i think people are reading too much into the suppressor. it’s definitely interesting, but lots of people have them, he could have just bought it a while ago because he thought it was cool.

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        Sad to say your average american is less likely to take matters into their own hands because they want to “work hard” and become the boss themselves doing the oppressing.

        :paulo-freire-shining:

        Death to America

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      Americans rather blame others like themselves rather than all the CEOs and shareholders who benefit the most from fucking them over.

    • I’ve always wondered the same thing - probably thousands of people have been fucked over by insurance companies, a lot of them are going to be terminally ill, it’s shocking that this doesn’t happen more often.

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      So I’m not going to encourage adventurism please don’t do it. Dying on your own is not the way to build revolution.

      Well, yeah, but if you can’t actually contribute to building it…

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    liz-society if you do adventurism we disavow

    ypg-brace but if you do

    liz-society don’t

    ypg-brace but IF you do…

    liz-society we disavow and you’re not a real poster on hexbear, just a lurker.

    ypg-brace so don’t do it. But if you do…

    liz-society we disavow

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    When my sibling was dying of cancer and needed around the clock care because they couldn’t walk, talk, or take care of themself in any capacity, insurance cut their nursing to 0 hours per week because they were “getting better” after previously refusing to pay for their hospital stay because they weren’t getting better and basically sent them home to die

    Anyway I’m gonna have a nice dinner in celebration of this news and in memory of my sibling

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      Bike Courier goes into NYPD precinct: “Officer, some guy knocked me out, threw me in a dumpster and stole my bike!”

      Cop: “Can you describe him?”

      Bike Courier: “Uh, white, bald, he had a weird tattoo on the back of his head.”

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    Look, when I’m terminal, whether that be young or old, you’d better believe I’ll be more sympathetic to adventurism. Gonna get real into shooting as a hobby and curious about oil and healthcare executive meetings. Just some fanciful interests of a dying man, where’s the harm in that?

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      You know, if you own even one share of a publicly traded company’s stock, you will be admitted into their annual shareholder’s meeting. Just FYI.

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    Wow. I didn’t know that. I just - you’re telling me now for the first time. He led an amazing life. What else can you say? He was an amazing man. Whether you agree or not, he was an amazing man who led an amazing life. I’m actually saddened to hear that. Thank you very much.

  • mudpuppy [it/its, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    this is so so awesome this is the best news ive heard in so long. we need things like this to happen way more often we need to be killing off a billionaire every week and healthcare is an excellent place to start. i think the world will be a better place when ceos know they can and will be capped in the street if they earn it. i hope the assassin leads a long fulfilling life and never gets caught, and i hope tons of people do exactly what he did.